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Nolvasan Solution for my Jacksons......................

lazandlouie Apr 23, 2004 01:04 AM

I was told by a herp vet to give my jacksons nolvasan solution every day for about 10 days and today is day 3 and he has some stuff on the outside of his mouth that looks like glue and i was wondering if i should be worried or he just doesnt like it? Its 1 a.m. and no vets are open. Thanks EVERYONE!!

Replies (12)

lele Apr 23, 2004 09:11 AM

Nolvasan is a disenfectant used for cleaning NOT for ingesting! What was your vet thinking????? Stop this immediately!!!!!!! (and then sue your vet if you cham dies!)

go to this link and click on: Manufacturer/Label Information and read all the warnings!
Nolvasan

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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica the j sisters were sent to freedom last month
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia (MIA
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

lazandlouie Apr 23, 2004 09:28 AM

Okay thanks, but how do i go about getting the vet back, my mother asked "are you sure your suppose to make him swallow it" and i said yeah the vet did, and her assistant did, and they were talking about how he's going to get smart to it and start spitting it out, and her assistant also mentioned how they dont often see a lot of jackson's chameleons usually just monitors and snakes. What do you and everyone else reading, think i should do? Side note I spent $300 on everything at the vet to get him seen, shots, nolvasan, food, and i kind of want my money back now. Thanks Everyone!!

lele Apr 23, 2004 10:15 AM

Your vet is whacked! Frankly? if anything happens to your cham I would sue her! I would also report her to your local herp society (where do you live?) and report her to ARAV (Assoc. Reptile and Amphibian Veternarians (see link below).

have you called her and questioned this?? I sure would!! I cannot imagine that this person is an educated licensed vet! I am just furious about this and you should be, too. Damn! I would demand every penny back that you paid to her and tell her you will be reporting her. Even if she see only other types of herps there is NEVER a case where you would give ANY living thing Nolvasan! I would print out the label I linked you to and bring it to her. UGH!

As for your cham...I am not sure what to tell you. I would certainly wash as much as you can off his face, mouth etc. get him to gape or gently force his mouth open to see inside. Find another vet. How does he seem?? here is a link to vets by state www.anapsid.org/vets/index.html

Please keep us updated!!
ARAV

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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica the j sisters were sent to freedom last month
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia (MIA
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

jacksonsrule Apr 23, 2004 10:33 AM

WOW. I agree with everything lele said. Just because a Vet sees monitors and snakes doesn't mean they know crap about Chams, which we all know are very unique in their needs.

But giving an animal a topical antiseptic orally? She basically poisoned your Cham. What an idiot. I'm so sorry you wasted all that money.

What was the original problem with your Jax anyway?

jacksonsrule Apr 23, 2004 11:33 AM

Wait, what "shots" did this vet give your Chameleon?

Rabies? Parvovirus? Feline Luekemia? Measles?

Chams are rarely given shots, and if they are, it's usually because of a problem, no a preventative measure.

lele Apr 23, 2004 01:17 PM

I was so ticked off I didn't even notice that. And Food, too? She probably gave him monkey food.
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica the j sisters were sent to freedom last month
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia (MIA
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

Cricketscritters Apr 23, 2004 02:06 PM

Nolvasan is recommended by many vets. AS A CLEANING DISINFECTANT ONLY! I agree with the other posts that you've taken your jackson to a quack.
I'd find another vet immediately. If you happen to see the same vet, have her take a huge drink of the nolvasan to prove to you that it's safe for consumption.
Then, sue the [bleep]! She must have certainly cheated on all her tests to get her degree.
Cricket

lele Apr 23, 2004 02:10 PM

to local and national boards. Hopefully someone else on the forum can make more specific recommendations. I just cannot believe that she is out there.

>>Nolvasan is recommended by many vets. AS A CLEANING DISINFECTANT ONLY! I agree with the other posts that you've taken your jackson to a quack.
>> I'd find another vet immediately. If you happen to see the same vet, have her take a huge drink of the nolvasan to prove to you that it's safe for consumption.
>> Then, sue the [bleep]! She must have certainly cheated on all her tests to get her degree.
>> Cricket
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica the j sisters were sent to freedom last month
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia (MIA
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

eric adrignola Apr 23, 2004 03:27 PM

why was the chameleon at the vet? What was wrong with it? From what I can tell, I can only imagine that it had a mouth infection(common with jacksonii), and that the vet intended you to flush out the infected area with the disinfectant.

Could you have misinterpreted "flushing out" as "giving"?

I had to use the chlorohexadine(nolvasan solution) diluted, to flush out the abcess in my deremensis' mouth. I always made sure he didn't swallow much, if any of it.

Double check with your vet--I am sure they meant for you to flush with it, and not administer it. It's basically like hydrogen peroxide--nobody's going to use it that way--it's just too much of a effup to believe!

jacksonsrule Apr 23, 2004 03:36 PM

I didn't know Nolvasan was a form of Chlorhexadine. I HAVE used the chlorhexadine solution on a Q-tip to swab the gumline and mouth juncture area of my Jax (as directed by my ARAV vet) for a mouth infection (Jax are indeed prone to these) but she told me never to squirt it in his mouth or allow him to swallow it.

His infection cleared up nicely, and now I swab the mouth juncture area once a week with the chlorhexadine, just to prevent another one.

Is it possible you misunderstood her instructions? If she DID tell you to administer it orally as a liquid, like you would Baytril or something, than she is nuts - of course he's going to swallow some.

jacksonsrule Apr 23, 2004 03:40 PM

Did you just hold him slightly upside-down or something, so it would run out of his mouth as you flushed the area?

lazandlouie Apr 23, 2004 09:30 PM

I believe he did have a mouth infection but he also had a respiratory infection, yeah if you look at my 1st or 2nd post i mention how my mom asked the same question but the vet put it in his mouth and mentioned to her assistant how jose (my cham.) is going to get smart to swallowing it and eventually start spitting it out. PS to everyone else, I called the vet today and the lady who saw jose wasnt in, or maybe shes in hiding and jose does seem to be doing fine. Thanks Everyone!!

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