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ghost brooks subadult

hypo female

I don't think she comes from "flame" bloodlines but she's still alright in my book.

male with aberrant pattern.

female...

male.

Great group of Brooks, I have a 18 month old male that looked just like your female as a hatchling, I posted a picture yesterday of what he looks like today. will you have a table at Daytona this year, had a great talk on brooksi with you there in 2002.

Unfortunately no I won't; I have another breeding project (1st child, a son = another snakeman!)that is due to hatch the week before.I might be able to sneak down for a day.
Dave

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Why are ghost brooks so dark? Everyone I've seen seems way darker than it should be. If you compare the amount of dark pigment in the ghost to what you see in just a hypo there is an obvious difference. You're hypos and most of mine have almost no dark pigment but the ghosts seem to show an awful lot. Any ideas? Anyone?
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Martin-
I have posted several picsc of ghosts, and I can't say I am satisfied with any of them. My wife helped me snap off a series of pics comparing a ghost to an axanthic. The first pic is of some '03 hatchlings. Ghosts do start off dark , but nowhere near as dark as an axanthic.

here is a dorsal pic comparing an adult ghost with an adult axanthic. I have not mastered photography, but both animals under the same conditions for comparison. The ghost has some black flecking but is virtually patternless

whoah, pardon my editing on the last one if you would. that was a lateral shot. This is the dorsal shot of the two

So I don't win any awards for web design or photo editing! I hope you found the pics.Keep scrolling around! Any how, as far as lack of pigment retention goes, I think the ghost brooks does pretty darn well especially compared to some other higher end ghost morphs out on the market.
The majority of ghost brooks out there are from Llemke axanthics and Beard hypos. The black flecking that is retained on the ghost pictured could be attributed to either bloodline- I don't think ( at the time this project evolved )it would not be too outrageous to have a hypo with that amount of pigment. I do not know of any other common source of 2x hets that cam from different bloodlines. I would really like to cross a nice New England axanthic with one of those nice orange hypo males and see what the difference would be... four years from now. If you or anyone else out there has a female New england axanthic and would be interested in a breeding project next year, let me know!
So, what is your opinion on the ghost/axanthic comparison?
Thanks,
Dave
(p.s.- black pine has alot of pigment, no?)

Ya know, maybe I just don't see very many pictures of adult ghosts. Those are really light and there is an obvious difference with the normal axanthics. Still seems like they have more pigment than a hypo but like you said, they mostly came from lemkes. Maybe on the hypos I'm just too blinded by the bright yellows and oranges to really see the pigment. lol Anyway, I hope I get some ghosts from my NE axanthics. I have one pair that are possible het.. They're '03 though so probably two years away. Thanks Dave.
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Quotes from guys named Carl:

"Science stops at the frontier of logic. Nature does not, she thrives on ground as yet untrodden by theory."
-Carl Jung

"It is foolish to let singleness of purpose deprive one of the joy and delectation of the many wonderful sights and sounds incidental to the quest."
-Carl Kauffeld

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