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Has any one got a good pick of a hybino honduran i can use for my site i will link your site to the pick or your email address and i will give you full credit for the pick please some one help as then i will have all the honduran pics

Thanks Rich
http://www.reptimania.co.uk/honduranmorphs.htm

Nobody has a picture of a hybino for sure yet?Iam sure terry will know in a month or so as will I.We both are doing test breedings to see if indeed we have a hybino.

shannon

>>Has any one got a good pick of a hybino honduran i can use for my site

Rich,

that could be quite a challenge. I don't think there's a known (ie, confirmed) hybino yet. I've bred double hets together for several years, and produced some very beautiful tangerine albinos from those pairings. One fourth of those albinos should be hypo as well, and thus hybinos. But are any of them?

I'm test breeding several this year. I tested my male last year, bred X a hypo, I got only two eggs but both were hypos. that proved he IS at least HET/hypo. But it's not a big enough sample size to lead to the conclusion that he is homozygous hypo and thus ahybino. To reach that conclusion i'd need to produce a dozen or so babies from hypos and if ALL of them are hypos, then we've pretty well confirmed his homozygosity. I'm doing those tests this year and have enough fertile eggs to draw a conclusion one way or the other. After all, it'll only take ONE non-hypo baby from them to prove he's NOT a hybino. That's easier than proving he IS.

I also produced a couple of albinos from that albino het/hypo male bred X a double het female, and one albino is very pale, orange instead of red. It's easy to speculate that he is a hybino, and that the "hypo-ness" accounts for the light orange, but he could just be a nice light tangerine. I've attached a picture, but he's (on the right) in shed as well. The difference was still distinctive after he shed, a major difference, but it is NOT enough to conclude that he is a hybino. He's not been eating real aggressively, so whether or not he's big enough to test breed next year remains to be seen.

Remember, the snake in the picture is NOT a hybino--at least, it cannot be called a hybino at this point, and should not be called that.

The final key is that a customer pointed out to me that a hypo het/albino bred X a hypo het/albino would produce definite, immediately identifiable hybinos. That's because ALL the babies would be hypos, and the 25% that are albinos (easily identifiable) would be BOTH hypo and albino and thus hybinos. Unless I prove my male this year, that sort of cross may produce babies that are the first kknown verifiable hybinos. then we'll be able to see for the first time, for sure instead of speculation, what a hybino looks like. And remember, THEY can vary too, because there will eventually, if not at first, be both tangerine versions of hybinos and tricolor versions of hybinos, so considerable variability.

Anyway, I produced some hypos het/albino last year (one is also het/anery and another is 50% chance het/anery) so I kept that pair and plan to breed them next year. That'll yield some interesting things:
1) definite hybinos
2) any ghosts will be possible het/albino
3) any snows will be definite hypo as well so true triple-homozygous animals!

peace
terry

by the way, even with a pic of a hybino, will you really have them all? What about the dramatic "piebald" or "calico" that popped up last year? Of course, we haven't proven it to be a true genetic mutation yet. TD