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Help us identify our new Leo's

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 07:25 PM

Hi there folks

the kids and i are new to this forum and also new to the world of gecko's. i was wondering if you could help us figure out what "type" they are.

i have one attached here and then i am postin 2 replys with the other 2 images.

thanks in advance

jason

Replies (22)

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 07:25 PM

image 2

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 07:26 PM

image 3 and last one

misswindom Apr 26, 2004 07:34 PM

The last 2 look normal to me.

The first one, though, looks like a Very dark and vibrant tangerine! Beautiful!

~~Dusty
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So Many Alleles, So Little Time...!
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~~The Gecko Barn~~

ericchen Apr 26, 2004 07:41 PM

well the first one is sort of tangerine...the second one is shedding so i wouldn't know but i agree with the last post...its probably a normal...and the third is a normal...

StinaUIUC Apr 26, 2004 08:00 PM

I agree with the other two...hard to tell, but it looks like #2 may be abberant...with it shedding though its hard to tell from the pic. Also, they look a little on the thin side...I'd up their feeding a little bit...other than that though, they're looking good!
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 08:34 PM

Thanks for your help all.

i just tossed in a few more crickets and they are hunting like mad.
thanks for the advice about feeding more.
i guess they eat a litle more than i thought.

it is amazing that a couple of you noticed that one was sheding because i didnt even notice and he is tearing off his old skin and eating it right now as i type.

we have only had them 3 days and i can already see that they are going to be the best pets we have ever had. we love to watch them hunt and run around at night.

i cant wait to get them a bigger setup. near as i can tell i got lucky and got 1 male 2 females..... i am excited to see if they will breed.

thanks again you are all very friendly

jason

StinaUIUC Apr 26, 2004 08:46 PM

it's pretty easy to tell when they're going to shed..they get that greyish cast to them. How big are they?...the look fairly young...if they're less than 50 g you need to separate the male from the females (if you want some people to help you determine sex for sure, try posting pics of the vent area) so they don't breed to small...which could cause problems for all of them. The male could end up with prolapsed hemipenes, and the females could end up eggbound or with other health problems from the stress and toll breeding would take on them.
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 08:56 PM

wow i had no idea that things like that could even happen.

and i thought i was somewhat educated about them. i have read and read all over the net.

the shedder i suspect is a male because he has those 2 bulges on the very base of the underside of his tail(as described on lots of caresheets) i cant actually see the v shaped pores though on any of them. althought i havnt checked with a magnifier yet.

should i pull the "male" util i can be sure?

StinaUIUC Apr 26, 2004 08:58 PM

you probably should separate them...I wouldn't go looking at them with a magnifying glass...you'll probably find pores on all of them if you do...lol females do have small pores...you'll just have to wait a while and see. It probably is a male though if it has pronounced bumps with a "separation" between them.
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

StinaUIUC Apr 26, 2004 09:03 PM

oh...well now that I read your post with their sizes...lol Right now they are probably to young to tell for sure what the sexes are...you can keep them together for now I think...but if you start to think that you have a male for sure, then you should separate it.
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

TLB Apr 26, 2004 08:35 PM

Hi

How old are they?, in the same order you posted them.

TLB

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 08:48 PM

To be honest i am not sure.

i called a local breeder and she didnt have any avail.

she told me that she had just sold some to a local pet store and we went there and just picked them out. the girl there was not extremely helpfull and had to keep going to someone else to ask my questions. the pictures are a little decieving because my 8 and 10 yearolds are holding them while i took the shots(small hands). the largest one is post 2(the shedder) he is about 5 1/2 inches long the first post (tangerine gets the vote) is about 5 and a little smaller in overall size and 3rd post is about 4 1/2 and smaller yet. i was just kind of guessing that were probably around2 to 3 monyhs old but i really cant tell. i am so new to this. i do know that they all are very friendly and they all move around alot at night and eat and poop and all that. they seem good overall. i am upping there feeding as recomended to get them a little less skinny . they dont seem to be very interested in the mealworms i give them but they are all over the crickets like as soon as i put them in the cage.

jason

TLB Apr 26, 2004 08:57 PM

I would guess the 4 1/2 inch one to be about two and a half to three weeks old. The 5 inch one to be about three and a half weeks old and the 5 1/2 inch one to be a month old.

At this young of an age in my opinion, I would say that it would still be a little hard to tell what color morph they would turn out to be yet.

Also, just to let you know, they pretty much will have there fine coloration and patterning at a year and a half, that is when they are considered to be full grown adults.

What kind of tank set up do you have?.

TLB

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 09:08 PM

right now we have a 10 gallon glass aquarium. they are small and seem to be doing well but i am going to get a 20 long on friday. maybe i should just keep the "male" in the 10 when i do that for now. he does have the bulges with a space between tham. i also have them on sand an will be getting the carpet stuff friday as well. i want there cage to be good for them and look good too. what else might i try for substrate? i am not too keen on using newspaper or paper towels. the "pet shop girl" said sand was fine but all the reading about impactation has me all paranoid. the last thing i want to do is cause them any harm by my ignorance.
that is why i am so grateful for everyones help in this forum.

TLB Apr 26, 2004 09:15 PM

HI

Some people use tile for a substrate (need to secure it), some people use tile, newspaper & papertowels, reptile carpet.

You also have to realize that when you go to a store and ask what to use, they are trained to tell you to use certain things, and to sell you certain items to help bring in the profits. If they aren't taught the right things from the begining by there superiors, then that is all they know to be true.

TLB

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 09:25 PM

so how does this sound for a plan:

on friday when i get my 20 long tank i will put the 2 "females " in it with a repti carpet substrate.

i will leave the "male" in the 10 gallon for now and change the sub also to carpet.

how old should they be before i put the together again?
and if it is too early for me to worry about seperating them now how much longer do i wait before i do? and then how log before they reunite?

thanks
jason

StinaUIUC Apr 26, 2004 09:20 PM

I would definitely get rid of the sand...they're too small to be on it. Most pet store employees don't have a clue what they're talking about... Anyway, I don't recommend repticarpet either because thier claws can get caught in it...which could cause them to lose toes or drop their tails. I'd recommend running to Lowe's or Home Depot, or Menard's (or whatever you've got near you...lol) and picking up some vinyl tiles. Get stone looking ones without a glossy surface. You can cut them with scissors to fit the tanks. They are very cheap (less than $2 a tile for 12 x 12" tiles), and look very good! They also hold heat well and are very easy to clean. I recommend vinyl mostly because you can cut them with scissors, but also because they make VERY tight "junctions" between them and there won't be any cracks for toes to get stuck in!. You'll probably get self adhessive ones, and I'd recommend sticking something to the bottom of them or just leaving the backing on them so that you can take them out to do thorough cleanings more easily than if you had them adhered to the tank. Anyway...as far as the male thing...you may as well go ahead and keep that one in the 10 gallon when you get the 20 gallon (make sure its a long and not a tall!). Just keep an eye on all of them over the next 5 or 6 months to find out thier sexes for sure!
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 09:29 PM

aaah the tile sounds like a good option.

i might just try that.

isnt it neet how they all go to the bathroom in the same corner.
leopard geckos are pretty smart.

thank you

StinaUIUC Apr 26, 2004 09:32 PM

lol...well...most of them use the same place....lol I have one that refuses to go in the same spot twice...lol They are smart though! I have one that knows when the tank is open and there might be an escape route...she'll actually take flying leaps from the top of a rock towards the top edge of the tank if its open...lol Now I want someone to tell me they aren't smart!
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

TLB Apr 26, 2004 09:36 PM

Hi

You will also find that they each have there own personalities, likes, dislikes. They are just the absolutely best reptile you could want to have.

You can pretty much be assured that you will be owning more of them, they are very addicting.

Something for you to check on ahead of time, and that is to find a reptile vet. in your area that will take care of leopard geckos. That way, if you were to ever need one at some point you won't be scrabbling to find one at the last minuete. There aren't really that many out there.

TLB

jtobey Apr 26, 2004 09:40 PM

more good advice i would not have thought of on my own.
ill call the area vets tomorrow.

he is really doing a good job shedding. colors are so bright.

TLB Apr 26, 2004 09:43 PM

HI

Make sure that he gets all of the shed off of him exspecially on his toes.

TLB

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