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Here's my new Mali, Rex. He's a lot bigger than I had thought. He's captive bred, but was only supposed to be 6-8". He's almost 14" from head to tail...... I got him for 125$ (employee discount - i think its a good deal??). They were selling for 295$. He's very docile, and runs to your hand to be picked up

Here's a pic of him with his eyes closed catch some rays

And here's one more pic of him

i don't think thats a cb mali, its looks to be a full grown male mali, like if it were 4-5 years old, it was captive bred and its that size and they said it was gonna be like 8 inches or something u said and it came out being 14 inches, that most likely is a wild caught and u put him in with out checking him, u might want to do something about that

Ah! that's not good! I was told he was captive bred. He's been in "temp" quarantine at the store for a week. Just added him last night. What do I do?? I had/have no clue.......

Urrghhh...

A few quick questions:

Is she going to get ill now?

Is he going to live?

I only have one other tank, but it has a 4-lined plated lizard in it...... what do i do?

That last post has me quite worried right now.....

first of all u should put him in another enclosure, and then take a fecal to the vet and get it checked to see if he has anything which most likely he will if hes a wild caught, and wish he didn't pass anything to your other uro, why would u believe a petshop, and how are they gonna quarantine him for you at the petshop it just doesn't make any sense to me? u have to quarantine him from your uro

I hear what you are saying elplayboydr111. You should house by him self for a few weeks to see if hes all good.
Are they both Mali or is one a female Rainbow benti?

Charlie

He's a Mali, and she's an Orange Benti...... would it be ok to put the plated with the female Benti, and use the plated tnak to get the Mali out of the main tank ASAP? If it is, the lights willl be out in 20min, and I can find somewhere/something for the plated tomorrow.

Thank you's for replying quickly!
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1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.0 Madagascan Four-Lined Plated Lizard
0.0.1 Orange Benti Uromastyx

don't put a uro with a plated what if the plated attacks him or something and they must carry different things that may harn eachother, just keep the uros together for now then until tomorrow and get another enclosure or set up a big rubbermaid thingy that people been using for the dirt setups and put your mali in there and get a fecal done on him and your benti also to make sure she doesn't have anything either, is she captive bred your benti i mean

Ok - and yes, the Benti is captive bred.
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1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.0 Madagascan Four-Lined Plated Lizard
0.0.1 Orange Benti Uromastyx

I'm really worried now. I just checked, and our local vet will only deal with cats, dogs, rabbits and small rodents. Their documents say that they do not deal with reptiles or aquatic life.

If I left them together, is there a high chance she's going to get something? I'm to the point of my hands are shaking now that you've told it's wild caught......

I'm quite new to reptiles -and am all "aahhh" about this.....

Is there anything I can feed them to help???

Thanks for the help so far......
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1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.0 Madagascan Four-Lined Plated Lizard
0.0.1 Orange Benti Uromastyx

where did u get him from online or a petshop? and do u know the people u got him from?
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1.1.0 cb red saharan uromastyx 0.0.1 cb egyptian occelated uromastyx

He came from a petshop. (the Mali). Which came from "MARDEL" I think? It's in Missassuga Ontario, Canada.....
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1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.0 Madagascan Four-Lined Plated Lizard
0.0.1 Orange Benti Uromastyx

Ok, lets try not to freak this person out too much

Yes it was not a good thing to put the new lizard without going through quarantine but what is done is done. This person said they were new to this and we have all made mistakes, as long as we learn from them it is ok. The thing to do now is limit the damage.

First step is to seperate them. In a pinch a cheap rubbermaid container of the correct size with good heat light and some hiding places will do.

Next is to sanitize the original cage. Empty it completely and wash down with a sanitizing agent. I use commercially bought but you can use a ten percent bleach solution. Just make sure to rinse with plenty of fresh chlorine free water several times and let air dry.

That is what you can do immediately. Next is to find a vet who deals with reptiles and get fecals done on both uros. Actually you may want to do the new one first then wait a few weeks to do the original one as some parasites take several weeks to show up.

Keep them seperated until you have a clean bill of health from the vet on both then you can finally introduce them together in the same tank and hope they get along. If they don't you will need to keep them seperately.

Everything will probably be fine. Most likely you will end up needing to deworm one or both of the uros. Since the new one appears to be healthy and robust it is not as likely that he has something really nasty, but you cannot be sure without a fecal exam.

Just don't forget quarantine next time as it is important for your lizards health and your pocket book (you only have to treat one lizard not several)

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Mike Wilson

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1.1.0 cb red saharan uromastyx 0.0.1 cb egyptian occelated uromastyx

I'm not sure..... she may be wildcaught for all I know (i was 'fooled' once) ..... But she's been in captivity for nearly three years......
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1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.0 Madagascan Four-Lined Plated Lizard
0.0.1 Orange Benti Uromastyx

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1.1.0 cb red saharan uromastyx 0.0.1 cb egyptian occelated uromastyx

Hey Cory,
I wouldn't worry too much about him not being captive bred. Actually, I would tend to believe he is because there's no absolute evidence to go by suggesting that he isn't. Most likely when you were given his approximate size of 6-8", the seller was most likely refering to his SVL (body length) rather than STL (over all length). He also appears to be very clean and robust in the photos and being that he's tame and calm towards you also leads me to believe he's CB, if not then at least a LTC. Don't fret man, looks like you got yourself a very nice male mali. Good Luck with him!
-Brian

why would u say something like that, when was the last time u seen full grown cb malis for sale, be realistic, some uros even though being recent wild caughts will act tame especially if there sick, u should always and i mean always quarantine any new uro before placing them with another one u've had , by u telling him that he could listen to u and what if, the word here is if, the mali does have something and passes it on to his benti , those benti aren't easy to come by and pretty expensive, what if because of that they die or something, nah he should take the mali to the vet and if something comes out then take his benti to the vet also to see if she got it, i'm 99 percent sure thats a wild caught uro, c'mon its not like it came from doug dix or lindsay pike he got it from a petshop and most petshops are crap
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1.1.0 cb red saharan uromastyx 0.0.1 cb egyptian occelated uromastyx

I never stated that he shouldn't quaratine his new Uro, infact, I was going to state that, be it CB or WC, he should quaratine any new animal. And to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't house two different species together, but that's just me. I was simply saying that there's no proof it's not CB. Personally, I found it rather rude you immediately shot down the thought of it being CB. Anyways, good luck Cory!

i'm not being rude but i'm not gonna sugar coat it either i'm being realistic and u talk to any of the breeders and they will tell u the same exact thing i said, that uro is most likely 99 perecent a wild caught not a cb, it is at least 4 years old, its full grown and a uro to mature in the wild takes about 4 years , he could go ahead and call doug dix and lindsay pike and i most likely know they would say the exact same thing i wasn't coming down hard on him i told him what he needed to know and i hope everything goes well, i just found it weird u said don't panic i think anybody should panic because it has to do with there uros health, oh well to me its something i would panic about, i want my uros healthy and i'll get scared if i think i messed up, well thats just me
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1.1.0 cb red saharan uromastyx 0.0.1 cb egyptian occelated uromastyx

As for whether you got a good deal - If you're in Canada, it probably was a good deal, CB or LTC. I keep hearing that it can be hard to find Malis there.

Congrats on your new acquisition! I agree, do separate them and find a vet for fecals. Don't panic - if he's long term captive and not already dead, chances are that if he has something, it's not instantly fatal. If your little lady caught something, you have some time to find out and get them both treated.

Good luck and keep us posted!
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Torey
Salem, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx Geyri (Joe and Arthur)
1.1 Uromastyx Maliensis (Tank and Turtle)
1.1 Anolis Carolinensis (Bowser and Leeloo)
1.1 African Dwarf Frogs (Bruce and Sheila)
1.0 Betta Splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.0 Sunset Dwarf Gourami (Sideshow)
0.0.1 False Spotted Corydoras (Spot)
0.0.2 Metae Corydoras (Frank and Jesse)
0.0.2 Dwarf Sucking Oto (Tootsie and Dum-Dum)
1.1 Felis Domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

Thank you for your help everyone! I'm glad I got a bit of time... I'll be contacting a local herpatologist by friday.

I'm was very worried lastnight after what I was told, and this afternoon did the following:

- Isolated the Uro's
- Tossed out all the sand, and replaced it with new
- Cleaned the entire tank well
- disinfected the rocks/wood in the oven
- Gave both the Uro's SEPARATE baths, in very warm water
- Placed each in their own enclsure (joined, but sealed off from each other with a glass divider)

I also phoned the local vets (only two), and both said that they do not deal with reptiles or aquatic life. That's why I'm contacting our local herpatologist and find out how he treats his new animals - so that I maybe can follow the same procedure.

I read in someone's post about "worms"? Is there something you can obtain easily from a pharamacy to help with this?

Thanks again for everyone's help - I'm glad this is such a great community
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1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx
0.1.0 Madagascan Four-Lined Plated Lizard
0.0.1 Orange Benti Uromastyx

Sounds to me like you're doing all the right things. Definitely check with the herpetologist. Find out what he suggests about getting a fecal done, or maybe he could help you if he does his own. There are many kinds of parasites and many medications for them - none of which you probably want to use unless you have to. I wouldn't give mine unnecessary meds. It's hard on them and it's hard on ME!

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Torey
Salem, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx Geyri (Joe and Arthur)
1.1 Uromastyx Maliensis (Tank and Turtle)
1.1 Anolis Carolinensis (Bowser and Leeloo)
1.1 African Dwarf Frogs (Bruce and Sheila)
1.0 Betta Splendens (Mr. Miagi)
1.0 Sunset Dwarf Gourami (Sideshow)
0.0.1 False Spotted Corydoras (Spot)
0.0.2 Metae Corydoras (Frank and Jesse)
0.0.2 Dwarf Sucking Oto (Tootsie and Dum-Dum)
1.1 Felis Domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)