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ridyard333 Jun 15, 2003 03:03 PM

hi i was looking at shows and came across this show, i was wondering if anyone has gone to this before, were there good vendors?
wide selection of species? good prices? ect
thanx
alex ridyard

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paris Jun 15, 2003 03:58 PM

me again,
i have gone every year except last year. i either drive from colorado or fly, so i feel it is well worth it.

i am the only vendor who breeds caudates, although they did have an english breeder the first year. unfortunatly frogs get the lions share of amphibian popularity, so i often push for equal representation of both salamanders and caecilians.

all the vendors have captive bred animals-that is required. again a popularity contest, the majority of frogs are darts, some people doing exclusivly them, but there were many different frogs represented from reed frogs to giant monkey frogs. but the sale isnt the only thing-its well worth the 3 day fee to go to the friday night dinner and attend the daily lectures, workshops and also to brain pick & network with other breeders.

ridyard333 Jun 15, 2003 05:34 PM

so paris,
if you don't mind me asking do you live in USA, i couldn't really tell
i asked this because if you do live in USA i was wondering where did you buy your frogs, i have got mine at Reptile Kingdom. So really you don't think they would have any running frogs at show since they haven't been captive breed?
thanx
alex

Derek Benson Jun 15, 2003 08:42 PM

He said he flies from Colorado to IAD, so he must live there. Also Paris, they had cb Phyllomedusa bicolor? That's impressive, since they rarely breed in captivity and only once so far (one clutch per pair as I'm told)
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paris Jun 16, 2003 01:53 AM

my running frogs i have bought at local pet stores, they usually 'ran' from 16-25$, i got my last batch from a local store that had them for 8$-so i bought them all-it isnt the best store for care of amphibians, so it was a sort of mercy purchase-but still a good deal and i only lost 2 of them-they were small and younger than those usually seen.

to answer your question-the answer would be no they wouldnt have them there-unless someone pulled a breeding in the next 9 months, i myself have purchased pedostibes hosi from the only known captive breeding (they didnt do well for me)at that time, i have bred arboreal salamanders and have viable offspring-and i have been told no one else has done that yet.(actually i didnt do a thing-they did all the work w/o telling me..)these is always something good to see-but i believe networking is one of the best tools for breeders-once you know a person in person they have a tendency to be more outgoing with sharing tips and tricks. if the price on these frogs were to go up-or their avalibility were to be cut off, then breding would be an economically sound option and the hobby interest might result in something.

to answer the other persons question-the giant monkey frog was for display only - but i think the breeder mentioned having offspring - now that i am a vendor its hard to get away from the table and look and chat.

as for living in the usa-i do -in colorado springs, my name just happens to be PARIS (first name) and though traditionally(ancient greece) its a man's name i'm a she.

aattea Jun 17, 2003 07:24 AM

I think it was two years ago someone had some CB P bicolor babies at the show. They were about $100, which is reasonable for cb babies. Unfortunately, I am unaware of any other success breeding these frogs. I believe this particular instance involved fresh imports breeding. I know that many people have been trying to repeat the success, including some professional institutions (NAIB), with little success.

IAD is a great weekend event. To really get the full value, you need to take part in the lectures, tours, etc. The show features mainly dart frogs, but there is a lot more available. In addition to your common horned frogs, there are some interesting hylids, incredible plants and a lot of helpful, knowledgeable vendors.

Derek benson Jun 17, 2003 08:03 PM

I know a few who have bred them, but only once.
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