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Sand question

Lint Apr 27, 2004 10:18 PM

ho k
Here the thing i'm getting ready to setup a leo tank and i have a question i dont really wanna spend $8 on a bag of sand(i like natural setups no paper towls for me) i live very close to the beach and i was wondering if i could grab some sand from there like farthest from the water itself

THANX YA'LL

Replies (16)

lizzylizard Apr 27, 2004 10:21 PM

unless you have an easy way to disinfect sand, even then there are so many negative side effects with it.

Lisa
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0.1 Hypo Leopard Gecko
0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko
0.1 Blizzard Leopard Gecko
1.0 Pacman Frog (Phatty)
1.0 Lovebird (Tony Montana)
1.0 Elkhound (Otto)
0.1 Malamute (Paris)
5.0 Bettas

Lint Apr 27, 2004 10:28 PM

oh ok thank you!

lizzylizard Apr 27, 2004 10:32 PM

you never know what could be in that sand, urine, poison, pesticides... any small amount of something like that could kill you're leo.

Honestly, for a natural "safe" set up, go buy some tiles from home depot for a few bucks. Make sure to measure your tank first so they can cut them to size. I love the look of sand as well but I love the look of healthy leos more. I just don't want to take any chances.

Lisa
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0.1 Hypo Leopard Gecko
0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko
0.1 Blizzard Leopard Gecko
1.0 Pacman Frog (Phatty)
1.0 Lovebird (Tony Montana)
1.0 Elkhound (Otto)
0.1 Malamute (Paris)
5.0 Bettas

grimreaper Apr 27, 2004 10:31 PM

parisites, impaction mite really happn quickly, try tiles from home dopot or such. there only bout $1 or so each
nevin
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1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-sunshine&chaos
1.1.1 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1.1 blizzerd lizzard-grim&amber
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
0.1.0 bearded dragon-blaze
1.0.0 uromastyx-chubby
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

lizzylizard Apr 27, 2004 10:33 PM

np
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0.1 Hypo Leopard Gecko
0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko
0.1 Blizzard Leopard Gecko
1.0 Pacman Frog (Phatty)
1.0 Lovebird (Tony Montana)
1.0 Elkhound (Otto)
0.1 Malamute (Paris)
5.0 Bettas

TLC Apr 27, 2004 10:43 PM

n.p.

grimreaper Apr 27, 2004 10:46 PM

np
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1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-sunshine&chaos
1.1.1 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1.1 blizzerd lizzard-grim&amber
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
0.1.0 bearded dragon-blaze
1.0.0 uromastyx-chubby
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

TLC Apr 27, 2004 10:48 PM

n.p.

grimreaper Apr 27, 2004 10:52 PM

were all friends
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1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-sunshine&chaos
1.1.1 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1.1 blizzerd lizzard-grim&amber
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
0.1.0 bearded dragon-blaze
1.0.0 uromastyx-chubby
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

TLC Apr 27, 2004 10:53 PM

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ChrisNM Apr 28, 2004 09:15 AM

Re: Grimreaper - neather hav i, just herd lots of horror stories. no need for srry lol

Kind of like hearing horror stories about sand huh?

Lint, there's nothing wrong with using sand. I will agree though, don't use the beach sand. Sterilizing beach sand would be much more labor intensive than going to Wal-Mart, Home Depot, etc and getting a 50 pound bag of play sand for 1.50-3 bucks. I am the same about the naturalistic caging. I'd consider myself experienced in using sand as a substrate. I've been doing so before keeping leos (started in 1996) and my current job as the Las Cruces Museum of Natural History Nature Center Intern has me maintaining the museum's herp collection, which involves them living on sand. The museum has used sand as a substrate way before I started working there and they've never had any fatalities either. The people on this forum are paranoid about and inexperienced in the use of sand as a caging substrate, so I'd pretty much ignore them. They are extremely biased about it and you won't get the info you're looking for. Feel free to e-mail me. I'll get pics of my one and only current leo cage with sand substrate and tell you how I set mine up. I'm not going to say more as I'm tired of continually typing on this subject matter.

Chris Newsom
Biology Major - NMSU
Reptiles & Amphibians of Southern NM

grimreaper Apr 28, 2004 09:42 AM

i said that iv herd all kinds of horror stories about repticarpet. read a lil more careful.
nevin
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1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-sunshine&chaos
1.1.1 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1.1 blizzerd lizzard-grim&amber
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
0.1.0 bearded dragon-blaze
1.0.0 uromastyx-chubby
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

StinaUIUC Apr 28, 2004 09:50 AM

Not all of us are anti-sand......in fact Nevin (grimreaper) and I were the two people mocked on fauna classifieds the other day for saying that sand wasn't so bad........
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

lizzylizard Apr 28, 2004 12:47 PM

I myself used sand for four years before switching to slate. However, there have been many problems linked to using sand as a substrate. No, I don’t have proof of this myself, I just trust in other who do.

"The people on this forum are paranoid about and inexperienced in the use of sand as a caging substrate, so I'd pretty much ignore them." For you to call everyone inexperienced because they care enough about their animals to not want to take a chance is extremely inconsiderate. Also what is there to be experienced about in the use of sand? it's not very difficult. Maybe we are being paranoid but I would rather be safe than sorry.

"I'm not going to say more as I'm tired of continually typing on this subject matter." I think we all are. In any case we all also know the pros and cons of sand. When people like lint come here not knowing about them I don’t think it is a bad thing for people to want to inform them. I want the best for all of my animals and hopefully so does everyone else.

Post pictures of your set up here. I am not biased against sand, just choose not to use it. I love coming here and getting neat ideas from other peoples set ups. Please don't take this bad, I just don't like being called paranoid, biased, and inexperienced because I have chosen to be cautious.

Lisa
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0.1 Hypo Leopard Gecko
0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko
0.1 Blizzard Leopard Gecko
1.0 Pacman Frog (Phatty)
1.0 Lovebird (Tony Montana)
1.0 Elkhound (Otto)
0.1 Malamute (Paris)
5.0 Bettas

grimreaper Apr 27, 2004 10:48 PM

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1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-sunshine&chaos
1.1.1 leopard geckos-killer, narvana, sallean,
1.1 blizzerd lizzard-grim&amber
.1 bell leopard gecko-ecstacy
.1 tremper leopard gecko-euphoria
.2. amazon tree boas-sweetness&carnage
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-stimpy R.I.P.
0.1.0 bearded dragon-blaze
1.0.0 uromastyx-chubby
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont become classified. if you are nothing, then you can be anything."

LeopardGeckoMan Apr 30, 2004 08:50 PM

k
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