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I was doing a presentation with some of my kingsnakes (including a normal eastern) and someone told me they he had an albino eastern kingsnake. I just nodded my head. I did not thing there were any albino Easterns out there. Am I mistaken or not? If they do exist I would love to see a picture of one.

Thanks

Hi,
Terry Dunham produced some last year-(I know other people have them too, just cant think of the names off hand) but I bet Terry will post a pic of one, I think he still has some too so check with him if your interested in getting any.
Jeff Teel

Weren't they crossed with the almighty albino cal king at some point????

Peter

Peter,
The "founder" of the albino eastern line came from a wc specimen from (here's the problem)eastern Tennessee/Northern Georgia. I currently have 1.1 albino and 0.2 hets that I purchased from Tom Chiang. This is the same line that Terry Dunham had/has (I think he got rid of them, but I'm not sure) and the same line that Will Still has. I'm super busy with work and family right now, but I'll post pics later.

I seem to have a 0.1 het that has trouble laying good eggs, but the other is due to have her pre-laying shed in the next couple of days. There is always the hope for some better success this breeding season.

Bob Bull

>>Peter,
>>The "founder" of the albino eastern line came from a wc specimen from (here's the problem)eastern Tennessee/Northern Georgia.

if I recall correctly, the problem mostly is that the animal came from a collector who LIVED in eastern tennessee...black king range...who sold the animal to N.E.R.D., which had formerlly bought "chain kings" from the same guy, and those reportedly all looked like and were assumed to be eastern chain kings, so what's not known is where the guy was collecting. (east tenn & extreme n ga are in far-eastern end of black king range; intergrades are reported along the border with n.c., and then L.g.getula in n.c. and in south & southeast georgia.)

There was once talk of a riverbank near chattanooga locale, but later uncertainty over whether the reference was to "chattanooga" or actually to the "chattooga river" -- which originates in extreme north georgia near the north and south carolina borders. It's hard to prove anything today, especially in circumstances including a state like georgia that has TWO Chattooga rivers, the other in west georgia on the border with alabama! Go figure. Anyway, i think the collector also lived in chattanooga, so that returns the ucnertainty to the original issue of where he was actually collecting.

Keith and others hammered the issue pretty hard and concluded they're L.g.g. I wouldn't risk anyone's life on that--or on most anything else, of course--but i do know we hatched a number of babies last year, albinos and hets, and none emerged looking like typical nigra. Some of those pairings included an F1 het, so you'd have thought the offspring would have been pretty representative of the parent stock.

Bob's right, I moved most of my collection of L.g.g. to friends here in Florida. I couldn't resist keeping a hatchling pair, a het male and albino female, as i was liquidating things, they're just such nice animals.

peace
terry

Here is one from Will Still. Terry and I explored and investigated the Albino and came to the conclusion they were legit with more evidence they were authentic than evidence they werent. Will's came from somewhere else and may or may not be from the same line that Howie Sherman and Terry Dunham have.

Keith

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Hello,
This is a soon to be yearling female, I have yet to figure out the right lighting and flash combination to get a good picture of her.
David

Just wondering if anyone had albinos or hets for sale?

Is that one from Will Still's line?
Rainer

I picked up her and 1.1 hets from Terry Dunham last year.
David

>>I picked up her and 1.1 hets from Terry Dunham last year.
>>David
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Yeah I would love to see those aswell.

They are both getting ready to shed at the present time, but as soon as they do I will take some pictures of them and post them here.
David