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Has anyone had this before

steve.AC May 01, 2004 04:13 PM

My female albino has a strange thing she does in the early hours of some mornings.

She sounds like she is trying to throw up, BIG deep stomach wreaching and then this leads to an open mouth and heavy air sounds, like she's trying to get a hair out of her mouth.

she has no other symptoms throughout the days, none, its only happend 3 times and isnt getting worse. I wonder if its a sign that this little male is bothering her soo much, not sure.

thanks

steve

Replies (8)

drimes May 01, 2004 04:43 PM

We had a male doing the same thing. He had a RI.
No other symptoms, just sounded like he was trying to hack up a hairball. Was treated with Tylan and is doing great.

Good Luck,
Kathy

Biophiliacs May 01, 2004 05:02 PM

Most vets, when they diagnose a RI, use Amikacin or Baytril. But I bought a bottle when I saw that Richard Paull recommended it for tortoises. I haven't really had an oportunity to use it and I wonder if you've had good results.
Thanks-
Matt Schubarth
Pet Nebula
2100 Stephens #116
Missoula, Montana 59801
406 541 9929

patoquack May 01, 2004 05:11 PM

I used Tylan for a boa I recieved with RI.. and it worked very well..
I found some good info on the Boaphile forum for dosing and administering.. If I can find it again I will post it.

Patrick

drimes May 01, 2004 07:04 PM

From my personal experience and what I have read several other places, Tylan works very well. It is dosed at 50mg per kilogram of body weight(a kilogram = approx 2lbs) If you can find the Tylan 200 it is better because you use much less, if not the Tylan 50 works, but because you are injecting so much it is best to use a couple of injection sites. It is injected under the skin (and between the scales)in the front 1/3 of the snake. One dose every three days, for a total of three doses, did the trick for me. I also raised the heat to about 86 degrees with a hot spot around 91.
It worked great the one time we needed it and everyone that I have spoken with that has used it has gotten excellent results.

I do want to add, if you have never given any animals injections then I would STRONGLY recommend you have your vet show you or do the injections for you. I would really hate to have some one injure their animal trying something they have no experience with, just to try to save a buck or two.

Good luck,
Kathy

steve.AC May 02, 2004 02:22 AM

Thanks for your reply

the female and male have been living together for quite some time now, the male hasn't made the noise at all. is it poss for one to get an RI and the other not. the cage is at room temps with a heat pad, and I know its not because they are too cold. are there other reasons for RI

thanks

steve

East TN Reptile May 02, 2004 11:57 AM

Thanks, Dave
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Actions Speak louder than words.
Dave @ East TN Reptiles

patoquack May 02, 2004 01:08 PM

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=440274,440419

bTW, thanks for the feedback on the gravid Hogg question.

Patrick

biophiliacs May 02, 2004 01:15 PM

(Weight in pounds of boa) multiplied by the conversion (1 kg per 2.2 pounds). That give you boas weight in kg. Then multiply (boa weight in kg) by the dosage 50 mg per kg. That gives you mg of dosage. Then you have to figure out how much Tylan in ml to give, which varies by the potentcy. We'll do Tylan 200 which contains in 1 ml, 200 mg Tylan. Multiply Dosage in mg by potentcy 1 ml per 200mg, mg cancels and this gives you dosage in ml. Oh yeah 1ml is a cc.

Weight of boa = 5.0 lbs

5.0lbs x (1.0 kg/2.2 lbs) = 2.27 kg = weight of boa in kg

2.27 kg x (50mg / kg) = 113 mg = dosage in mg

113 mg x (1.0 ml/ 200mg) = .565 ml = around .5 cc injection

Pretty sure this is right. I didn't do the best job on the sig figs. If I made an error elsewhere I'd like to know. Also, if you haven't had a culture done by a real vet. I wouldn't jump to antibiotics if you know how to administer/use them- what kind of syringe to use, where to put the injection, and temp increase of the affected boa.
Later-
Matt Schubarth
Pet Nebula
2100 Stephens #116
Missoula, Montana 59801
406 541 9929

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