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Ackies
Female

Pair

Argus
Female

Male

Goulds

And of course peachies
Male I think

Female I think

--Robert

The argus do not look like argus, where did they come from?

Also, with the pair of goulds, it looks like a pair.

Good luck monday, I hope it goes well, later FR

Thanks Frank, I got both argus from creeps.

Here are some more pics....

--Robert

I like the argus! They have the most contrast in their patterns, they are so pretty!

No pics of BABY ackies yet? Are all 11 eggs still good?
Thanks for the pics, RB!
D.

the fill flash wiped out the yellows on the argus, the pics aren't doing any of them justice. The female is breathtaking, IMHO.

I really think argus have a bad rap, and goulds are incredibly underrated.

All 11 eggs seem fine, at least they are still round, white, full and don't smell, they look like they may have grown as well. There will be too many pictures if and when they hatch.

Thanks Goon,

--Robert

How are the rudi eggs doing?

Does having two baby rudis in that cage mean Diem has a friend, or that you have two that hatched together in there?

Don't mean to be nosey, oops I lied, I did mean to be nosey. hahahaha

--Robert

It means out of three baby rudis I had in there, I now only have two. Diem and Spar, not raised together. I found Wing's body after discovering the new hatchling. I'm relieved, actually, since he was obviously too far gone, and I was debating a trip to visit my friend's alligators. What gave me pause is that sometimes they crunch and swallow their food right away, and sometimes they just hold it...

The rudi eggs are giving me headaches.
The left side (where Chickadee hatched from) eggs look nice!
The right side eggs suddenly look cruddy. There is the snipped egg (by me), and the slashed egg that dribbled fluid but no nose came out, and next to that one, the egg has developed slash marks that haven't pierced all the way through.
Eh, forget those guys, I'm going to bed....
Thanks RB
D.

I do not know the story behind your eggs so I am making a comment here out of mostly speculation and assumptions. If I am way off, please just file this comment somewhere.

For my last clutch of eggs I ended up cutting some of the babies out of the eggs. I did not just snip them open, but I cut them completely out of the egg. I then cut them out of the sac thing that they were in from there. All of those babies have survived and appear to be doing well.

It might be an option you want to consider. I know/knew my incubation and such were not quite right, but figured why should they die if I could do something to help them along.

Best of luck with your little ones.
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^x^ Bloodbat ^x^

Really? Ohmygod! You cut them out and they lived?? really? That's unreal...I'm so confused now. I figured that if they aren't strong enough or whatever enough to hatch out on their own, then they shouldn't live??? Oh my...what to do, what to do...
Naturally, I'd like to see them born, I've been waiting on these guys for a looooong time, but I sure as heck don't want to go through the care and worry over a baby that ends up failing. Its so disheartening! I don't want to assist them if it means a long slow lingering decline like the one Wing just went through.

But if yours are doing Ok...how long has it been? This is the most recent clutch of yours, right? Do they show any signs of failing? And at what point did you decide to assist?
Thanks for any advice you can give.
D.

Dragoon

Yes, I really did cut them out. First week of March. So we are looking at 2 months now. None of them show any signs of ill health or decline. In fact, they act like normal baby salvators. The only difference is that they were a bit smaller than my first clutch. However, that had nothing to do with me cutting them out. That was (most likely based on what I have researched since then) caused by incubation temperatures that were too high. This small size has been consistent for all my clutches that have been kept at temps that I feel were too high.

I based my decision on knowing that my eggs had hit the incubation time necessary for live hatchlings and cut them out when the eggs started going bad, I panicked, and my curiousity got me. After my first two, I started doing it because it had gone well and had lingering concerns about losing the rest. I cut out 4 or 5.

I have sold one of the babies from that clutch. I honestly do not remember if it had been cut out or hatched on its own. However, on Saturday I was told it was growing nicely and doing very well.

Here is a website with some pictures. Keep in mind as you read my captions that I put this site up as I was going through this process. I no longer regret cutting them out nor do I feel it was a bad decision. If necessary, I will do it again with a lot less hesitation. I think if I had not debated with myself for so long with myself, I might have saved a few more.

I have some more pictures if necessary.
February and March hatchlings

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^x^ Bloodbat ^x^

Seeing how Bloodbats baby had alot of yolk sac left to absorb. Your problems may be not allowing the egg's to have a period of less humidty towards the end of incubation.

This allows them to absorb and also makes the egg shell more pliable for them to slit.

Just a thought it may or may not be the case.

As for cutting them open or not to. Well alot of snake breeders cut open there clutches, and all babies are fine afterwards. But I will leave that upto you to decide.

Good Luck

A failure to reduce humidity at the end may be a factor, but I suspect it is not the primary problem. I have had clutches hatch without a reduction in humidity, but those clutches were kept cooler than the last few clutches. So my first adjustment was the temperature. I have reduced the humidity in the containers as well although not as much as some have suggested. I hope to have enough clutches over time to continue to play around with things. I think I will. I will keep your thoughts in mind.
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^x^ Bloodbat ^x^

I am so sorry Goon, I didn't expect that.

I completely understand your feelings about Wing. More than understand, that is exactly how I felt/feel about Matu (he is gone now), it was inevitable and a long time coming, I'm just glad the torture is over, that they can rest in peace. I am such a softie and can be very selfish at times, but a tortured existence is just not the way any monitor should live.

Best of luck with all your animals,

--Robert

Aww thats better, the other pics had them very lite and the heads were very pointy. Argus have "bent heads", like a flavi or gouldi that melted a bit. Thanks FR

Robert,
Those "argus" look an awful lot like gouldii to me also....

I can see the first two pics being mistaken for some sort of cross, but the additional ones (in the reply to Frank), and these should put that to rest, as they are as argus as argus come.

--Robert