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I have a pair of Pyxies. These were sold to a friend as pyxies and he had them a couple three years and they weren't 'growing' the way his son wanted. He wanted plate sized animals NOW. Anyway. Son lost interest and my son picked up the frogs. So I have had them a year and one had GROWN.

I don't have weights off the top of my head but I think I read here that Pyxies don't grow for several years and then sort of kick in? Is that true from your experience. I know these had good care in both homes so husbandry isn't an issue in the growth.

Also, and I think I asked this last year and can't for the life of me remember the answers. How can you tell dwarfs from true big guys?

I will go take picts etc if that will help. Gonna weigh them anyway.
TIA
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

If you can get pics, I can tell pretty quickly what species they are. Chances are, if there is more than one and they are staying small (at least by P. adspersus standards), then they are dwarf pyxies. You would think there would be an even amount of males and females on the market, but it seems that most of the frogs that are sold end up being males (from what I have had and seen). A picture is the best way to tell though. A couple of quick guidelines is that the dwarf pyxies have a yellow to tan line running down their back throughout their life span as well as a white-ish spot on the typanum (ear drum). Males reach only about 5 to 6 inches in length with females being a few inches shorter than that. They are more blotched in coloration. Adspersus are going to be mostly uniform olive (though different shades are not uncommon) green with orange arm pits. Some retain a bit of yellow just around the eyes. Andy
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Yahoo:surfandskimtx04
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

If you steal in hunger, I will kick you when you try. These stand for me. Name your god and bleed the freak. I'd like to see. How you all would bleed for me.-Alice In Chains

thanks Andy, they do have white dots on their tympanum. This is them, as of ten minutes ago when I poured water on them to unbury them enough for a pict.
I am guessing they are dwarfs. Any idea of worth? I barely found info, not many on anyone's lists and I have no idea. My friend and I do trades now and then and I don't want to be unfair to either of us.

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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

Actually, from that angle they look like adspersus(true pyxies). Can you get a closer shot of the side of the side, a profile shot from the side, and maybe one looking straight towards the frog's head.
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Yahoo:surfandskimtx04
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

If you steal in hunger, I will kick you when you try. These stand for me. Name your god and bleed the freak. I'd like to see. How you all would bleed for me.-Alice In Chains

>>Actually, from that angle they look like adspersus(true pyxies). Can you get a closer shot of the side of the side, a profile shot from the side, and maybe one looking straight towards the frog's head.

I will get some picts and post later. I have last year's but they are changing. They don't have nearly the light lines they had. They are mostly pea soup green on top and yellow and white beneath. Like I say. I will get some new picts.
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

They sound more like adspersus then. But some other pics will help. Any chance you could post the ones from last year?
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Yahoo:surfandskimtx04
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

If you steal in hunger, I will kick you when you try. These stand for me. Name your god and bleed the freak. I'd like to see. How you all would bleed for me.-Alice In Chains

>>They sound more like adspersus then. But some other pics will help. Any chance you could post the ones from last year?

Not great but something. I will very much try to get new ones today.

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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

Male

Female....who does have some 'blotching' of color on her sides...

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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

how long does it take for these guys to reach maturity? and how long do they live? I am gonna go and do a 'field guide' sort of search now to see what I can find. But all extras would be great.
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

There is a care sheet on my site the reptizone. As far as sexual maturity, they reach their maximum size at around 8 years of age, though they grow quickly and after the first year or two the growth is more minimal. They have the potential to live up to or ever over 40 years of age.
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Yahoo:surfandskimtx04
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

If you steal in hunger, I will kick you when you try. These stand for me. Name your god and bleed the freak. I'd like to see. How you all would bleed for me.-Alice In Chains

>>There is a care sheet on my site the reptizone. As far as sexual maturity, they reach their maximum size at around 8 years of age, though they grow quickly and after the first year or two the growth is more minimal. They have the potential to live up to or ever over 40 years of age.

I will go and look. It didn't come up for my search for them. I also found sites that say they are mature in 3 years but grow for 20. Which made little sense to me. The only agreement is that they can live 40yrs.
These two were essentially the same size til this year and they are 5 going on 6yo. This year he is 1/3 larger and I have started considering separating them even though they never are near each other and both are eating and acting 'unstressed'. I feed them at separate areas of the tank. It is a 30gal. He has never bitten or anything aggressive, though the girl latched onto my son's fingertip several months ago...while being hand fed. Now they are fed with hemostats.
What do you prefer for substrate? I have them on eco earth- which is shredded coconut. They eat predominantly in the water to avoid them ingesting much of it.
thanks again
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

So are they being housed together? If they are, it would be best to seperate them. The frogs might have been improperly fed/housed/kept before if they are still growing a large amount while 6 years old. Most grow extremely large in their first 2 years and then slow down, or that is how I have seen it most of the time.
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Yahoo:surfandskimtx04
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

If you steal in hunger, I will kick you when you try. These stand for me. Name your god and bleed the freak. I'd like to see. How you all would bleed for me.-Alice In Chains

>>So are they being housed together? If they are, it would be best to seperate them. The frogs might have been improperly fed/housed/kept before if they are still growing a large amount while 6 years old. Most grow extremely large in their first 2 years and then slow down, or that is how I have seen it most of the time.

I had given it thought but that was last fall and since they burrow in and sleep a large part of the fall and winter here in upstate NY I didn't see the point of doing it then. Now that it is spring and they are out and about again, and the male is obviously bigger, I am looking into separate housing.
I don't know what the previous owner did for housing but they were together when I got them.
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

np
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Yahoo:surfandskimtx04
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

If you steal in hunger, I will kick you when you try. These stand for me. Name your god and bleed the freak. I'd like to see. How you all would bleed for me.-Alice In Chains

>>np
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>>Andy Maddox
>>AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
>>MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
>>Yahoo:surfandskimtx04
>> Houston Herp Key
>> The Reptizone
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>>If you steal in hunger, I will kick you when you try. These stand for me. Name your god and bleed the freak. I'd like to see. How you all would bleed for me.-Alice In Chains
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron