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Hi,
This kind of goes with the threads from below-(regarding pyro stuff-2 hypo lines, the anery-(hypoerythristic), etc.) but this is my Sentz Hypo female. She is breeding here with my het-hypoerythristic male-its his first year but hes a '99 hatch and was produced by Ric Blair back when he had the anery-(hypoerythristic). I'm just really hoping she lays a good first clutch this year, and then if I'm really lucky she might double clutch again, shes a big girl and in good health-so if she appears to be ovulating again after her 1st clutch I'll pair her up with this same male again. These babys will be 100% het-hypo sentz line and 50% poss. het-anery, so these will be nice for the ghost project. I also think terry made a good decision to use to the sentz line hypo for breeding with the anery male for ghost projects, Especially sine the sentz hypos seem so much lighter it just makes sense that ghost from them will be nicer too. I cant wait to see how things unfold with the pyros. Anyways, just wanted to post the pic-(it was taken about 3 weeks ago).
jeff teel

Captive Bred Tri-colors

Hi,
Heres a close up pic-(kind of blurry, but you can see the difference in color pretty good) of them breeding. She should be entering her pre-egg shed any day now.
jeff teel

Captive Bred Tri-colors

jeff, do you think the sentz line hypos remain lighter/paler than brians as adults? troy

Hi troy,
Yes, i think so. These pics were not good. They were taken under the light in my snake room-(which is a normal 60 watt light) and they seh apperas darker here. Theres a pic of a her on my site-(pic was taken in the shade during the day) that shows her colors better. I wish the hypomlines were the same. But you can really see the difference between them. In the ad you posted the other day, the hypos head cap is almost as a dark as a normal pyro. There is a pic on Terrys website that has a hypo BHB, a hypo Sentz, a dn a normal. You can see the difference from all 3 of them really well in that pic. Sometimes when i take pics of my sentz hypo in her cage the flash will make her dark rings look almost lavender. But they are really a light coffe cream color. I dunno, it will be cool to see how all this works out. I just want to see more sentz hypos-(the one Steve Sentz prodcued last year is so nice looking. It almost looks like an albino when its comming out of the egg-those pics are on the kingsnake.com photo gallery, you just got to pan back a ways and look for them, but you see how light they are).
jeff teel

and extra letters in that response. I was typing fast and not paying attention.
Jeff

thanks jeff. it is hard to tell with pictures. would love to see a sentz line myself. i've seen a lot of diversity as far as light/dark within brians line here as some of my animals have come out and remained much lighter than others....i've yet to produce a albino/amel though. troy

this is a pic of a pair of my hypo pyros that show the light/dark variation in brians' line of animals. troy

Hi Troy,
Thanks for that pic. I like the BHB hypos and was hoping to get some this year. my het-hypo from Brian-(could still be a het-hypo for the sentz line though since Brain had 1 sentz line and had mixed the lines together not knowing there were 2 different lines back then) but my female het-hypo laid 4 eggs 2 days ago from a het-hypo male from Brian-but all 4 look to be bad eggs-(it was her first year breeding), I'm kind of bummed but oh well. Anyways, here is a head shot of my sentz hypo-you can see how the color is much lighter than the BHB hypos.
Jeff Teel

Captive Bred Tri-colors

Hi,
Heres a pic I posted last year-(this was taken a week after her 2nd clutch last year, thats why she looks a little skinny) I'll get a new pic soon of her-(I just like this one so havnt been trying to get a new one up).
Jeff Teel

Captive Bred Tri-colors

Hi,
I dont know why thye pic of my sentz hypo has that little blur going through the middle of it..?, but heres the sentz hypo female with my male het-hypo BHB. There is much difference between them. To me it seems that BHB hypos arent too much lighter than normals, atleast in the head cap color. It will be really neat to see how all this turns out in the next couple years though. Hopefully if these 2 supposed different hypo lines are that- 2 different hypo lines, if they are bred together for dh sentz hypo and BHB hypo, then bred back for the chance of a 1 in 16 being a double homo showing both sentz hypo and BHB hypo in one snake, maybe it will be a super light hypo-(kind of like the new extreme hypo hondurans..?) or who knows..?, maybe these 2 hypo lines will be compatible and its just the sentz line ones look better, or produce lighter hypos than BHB ones do..?
Jeff Teel

Captive Bred Tri-colors

jeff, i would really love to see more sentz line hypos. there seems to be quite a bit of color variation in the bhb hypos that i've produced so far. some have hatched so light in color that i initially thought they were amels. granted they do darken some (esp. the headcap) but others hatch much darker and almost need to be compared to normals to see the difference.
also, my experience has been the bhb line grow painfully slow. most of my breeders-male and female-didn't cycle until they were 4-5 yrs. old. they eat well for only 5-6 months of the year then are done for winter. after not feeding for 6-8 weeks i cool them.
most of my pyro collection is the same as far as feeding. much of my breeding stock-hypos and normals-came from the kc area in the late 80's into the early 90's from dave breidenbach and steve fluty (steve is where brian bought his hypo/albino project from). they both had the same experience as far as feeding with their collections too.
anyone experiencing anything different with brians line? jeff, how about the sentz line? thanks terry, matt, jeff for the recent great pyro thread. troy