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motley amel to zig zag anery equals.....

cmsuphoto May 04, 2004 05:42 PM

Who the heck knows? Ok, here's what I'm looking at for two years from now. I have an amel motley kinda striped kinda silly little guy named Adien. He's born of a ghost het motley female and amel motley male. Anyway, the female zig zag is from an anery female and snow dad. so, that's the genetics. Now, the lovely question would be....would you get anything from breeding these unrelated corn snakes together? Is it possible to get a snow striped? Or ghost striped? Or motley all of the above? One other question. When I was breeding ball pythons, I knew that a black stripe all the way down the back can sometime occur when there's some stress on the egg. I was wondering if that was true with corns, and if that zigzag pattern came from stress on the egg or anything like that? Any thoughts would be good here. And a final question...how do you add text after the picture, or add more than one pic? Thanks in advance!

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cmsuphoto May 04, 2004 05:43 PM

Another picture of the two I wanna breed together!

Mick May 04, 2004 06:30 PM

If I read (and infer) the parentage right, here's the answer...

Male is, Striped Motley, Amelanistic, Het for Ghost
Female is, Anerythristic, ZigZag, Het for Amel

Offspring are predicted to be...
6.25%, Snow, Het for Hypomel, Het for Stripe, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Amelanistic, Het for Anery, Het for Stripe, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Het for Snow, Het for Hypomel, Het for Stripe, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Amelanistic, Het for Ghost, Het for Stripe, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Anerythristic, Het for Amel, Het for Stripe, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Het for Snow, Het for Stripe, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Anerythristic, Het for Amel, Het for Hypomel, Het for Stripe, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Snow, Het for Hypomel, Het for Motley, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Het for Snow, Het for Motley, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Amelanistic, Het for Anery, Het for Motley, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Het for Snow, Het for Hypomel, Het for Motley, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Amelanistic, Het for Ghost, Het for Motley, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Anerythristic, Het for Amel, Het for Motley, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Snow, Het for Motley, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Anerythristic, Het for Amel, Het for Hypomel, Het for Motley, Het for ZigZag
6.25%, Snow, Het for Stripe, Het for ZigZag

---Mick
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DonSoderberg May 04, 2004 09:51 PM

I've been breeding motleys, stripes and striped motleys for many years. In some cases, we have bred striped motleys to striped motleys for years without producing one true striped corn. Just be prepared for that possibility. Hope I'm wrong about yours and our results are not necessarily common in the industry.

In the case of the zig zag part of this equation, I have never found zig zag to be a recessive trait. Hence, I think you'll see zig zag pattern in all generations of this line instead of only the predictable recessive generations after F-1. There's very little zagging on that animal so in the F-1s you should get some without any, some with more than the anery here and some with less. Same with subsequent line generations from this original union.

As Mick points out, you don't know if this anery is a carrier of the motley gene so unless its carrying the gene without your knowledge, you'll get no motleys or stripes. Naturally, most of the corns in our industry are carrying a hidden genetic surprise or two, so who knows what you'll actually get.
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