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As promised a while back, here's one of the two obsoleta x lindheimerii I found last month in central OK. This one is definitely one of the meanest obsoletas I've come across. I'm not the best photographer when it comes to close-ups, but I think (hope) this captures the jist of the pattern and coloration, which is typical for this area.

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MichaelB

Wow, he does look cranky. I gotta agree, he looks quite similar to the one I grabbed last week. As a quick comparison, here's that snake again.

I'm not very good a photographing these critters. She would sit there with her mouth wide open at anything that moved. All I had to do was wave my hand. Darn the luck, I had to pull my hand back to snap the pic, and she slowly closed her mouth. I got this one just before she shut it.

I have another pic with both intergrades in it, but I'having difficulty downsizing the image to get the file small enough. If anyone has any tips on how to do this, I'd appreciate it.
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MichaelB

Not to be argumentative, but I see a lot of Tx rats in the area, and that sure looks like pure Lindheimer to me.
All the best,
Perry

I call her an intergrade only on the basis of where I found her - central Oklahoma - and the fact that all of the information I've seen and read indicates that obsoletas throughout this general areas are o. obsoleta/lindheimerii intergrades. But I agree, I also think she could pass for a true lindheimerii.

When I first posted this pic last year, someone replied that they thought there was some o. obsoleta in there. I think it had something to do with the pattern, maybe the shape and size of the blotches. I don't know; they all have similar patterns around here, but most are quite a bit darker.
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MichaelB