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I purchased this male as a 100% het. Pied. He has a nice ring as well and under the ring is an area of pure white. Is this typical on any Ball Python to have the white or is this possibly an indicator for pied. He came from a pied female to het. male. Thanks for any input......Joe

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I remember this snake from kingsnake classifieds

I don't know if it's het for pied or not but the pattern near the tail is intriguing to say the least.

Good looking animal by the way.

The white under the belly is abnormal as well. If he said it's fraom a homozygous to a heterozygous then you've got yourself a heterozygous there. It's a keeper nonetheless!

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Hi Joe, that ball came by my place so I got a chance to look at it in person. The markings near the tail resemble what a pied would be marked like but if it were even 1% pied, the whole snake would look similar to that and not just that one area. As far as the het thing, I relly couldn't tell you. It is a neat looking animal though. Bill

Below I've linked the original KS thread on the alleged het pied sign.

Whether or not ringers are more likely in het pieds is also open for debate. Could a ringer condition caused by something not related to the pied gene be causing the pied het type belly?

I hatched a much less dramatic ringer last summer that is technically a 25% chance het pied but based on his and his father's bellies I'm pretty sure he was het. Hopefully I was able to talk the lady who bought him as a pet into breeding him some day.

I don't know anything about the sellers and didn't even try to look them up on the site that we can't name here because I didn't have the money to buy this guy but it did strike me as slightly odd that anyone would have a pied female and not breed it to a pied male, even if a breeding loan was needed to do so. Hopefully they had a good explanation for this.

It also got me thinking if I had ever seen a pic of a pied female on eggs. What if some day we run into a mutation which makes one or the other gender infertile in the homozygous state? I'm sure someone can quickly post a pic to eliminate pied from any such suspicion but just one more thing to worry about with each new morph.

Feb 2003 Kingsnake thread on het pied sign

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