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I have been feeding my new babies butterworms...

lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 02:43 AM

which seems to be working good. However, I noticed that my albino is not digesting them properly. There are full unchewed butterworms in her poop. It almost look as if they were not eaten (but they were). Any insight or personal experiences would be great.

They all never come out anymore, they didn't even come out for food tonight. Whereas last week they were out constantly, and ate everything in sight. Could it be because I have separated them in the tank below? I had to because they kept nipping at each other. Could they be lonely? Or are they just getting settled into a new enviroment?

Sorry for all of the questions. I'm just a big worrywart.

Thanks for any info,
Lisa

Replies (17)

lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 03:45 AM

of them are not digesting the butterworms properly.

ROI3IN May 07, 2004 04:02 AM

lisa,
sounds like they are regurgitating their meals. you might want to hold off on the butter worms until they get settled in their new environment, and feed them whatever was their old diet... mealies crickets............
or something these guys ( especially if they are babies) eat too much and regurge , they only do it once (lesson learned) basically they eat so much and stuff themselfs so much they vomit............
if either
a) you change back diet to oringinal one
or
b) cut back on the amount of butter worms you feed

and you still notice regurgitation you might want to find a local vet to get a fecxqal test run to see if they have any internal parasites causibg this...........

also make sure they are not being over heated 85 or so, (hard to maintain a good temp gradiant like you have them set up but like you have them is OK, not ideal though.. but as babies they will be fine) the way you have them set up and no lower than 75 or so at night
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ROI3IN May 07, 2004 04:03 AM

nm
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lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 04:13 AM

hey it's late, about this time all my posts stop making sense.

BTW is that your baby circle back for sale on fauna. If so, I love him. If only I wasn't in Canada.

ROI3IN May 07, 2004 04:20 AM

yeah thats one of my boys... just keep an eye on them.. it does sound like a regurge BUT if its not and they are coming out partially whole they might be a bit hard for a baby to digest....... i would get them back on their old diet asap and once they reach about 30-40 grmas try the butterworms again
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lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 04:10 AM

I'm pretty sure they are being pooped out. They have the white stuff attached to them, and all but one has normal poop attched to it. Oh the joys of poop, lol.

lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 04:14 AM

but I will ease up on the butterworms, I just ran out of mealies and crickets.

lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 04:27 AM

I have been told that temperatures up to 93 are good. Right now I have it set-up so that it is between 85-93 in the day and 80-88 at night. I'll lower that right away.

lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 04:29 AM

do you mean it's not an ideal set-up because of the hight?

ROI3IN May 07, 2004 06:33 AM

depending on how your heat is set up... if it has a hot and cool side, thats what you want but if its a contast (in each cubicle) its, okay but not ideal... ideal is where there is both a hot end and a cool end to thermo regulate
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lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 02:38 PM

I have tried to set it up with a hot and cool side. There are UTH on the hot side. As well as the heat lamps on the the hot side. So I think there is probably a 5-10 degree difference, but I really have to figure it out better.

I had a tank perfectly set-up for them, with the perfect temps... I wish I hadn't had to separate them.

InsideOutsider13 May 07, 2004 05:31 AM

Temperatures up to 93 are perfectly fine. The fact is, which the people have failed to point out, is that butterworms, waxworms, mealworms, etc... are not able to be digested by a hatchling leopard gecko. You should feed solely on crickets until the bands on their backs begin to break up. Don't forget to add calcium to their food at this early age, because they might not have caught on to the whole calcium dish idea yet. Good luck.

ROI3IN May 07, 2004 06:30 AM

i have 60 hatchlings here that say mealworms are great. where does this info come from any ways? shoot gone for a couple weeks and bam...

Lisa?
does the heat tape or whatever heats the tank run under it or above it (like a heat lamp) all the way across all three enclosures or what?

i will keep hatchlings MAX temp at 91-92 but all my adults have a 90 degree hot stop and cooler areas to thermoregulate (body temps change to enable digestion)
night time temps you have is fine you can let them even get cooler than that it will not hurt. baxically you want EACH enclosure (cubicle) has a warm spot and a cooler spot......
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thegeckobarn May 07, 2004 09:06 AM

From what ive always been told, and believe from experience, it is best to start hatchlings on mealworms if you plan to feed them that as a primary source of food, or else they will get spoiled on crickets, and not take many (or no) mealworms later on.

I think its perfectly fine to feed mealworms to hatchlings. The mealworms they are eating should be fine to digest, since they are smaller and softer...and not as hard shelled as the adults.

Just my 2 cents...mine have always done just fine on them.

~Crystal
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*Whenever you lose a gecko, just think of it as God building on his own Leopard Gecko collection

The Gecko Barn

lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 02:34 PM

There is small UTH's that cover about 1/4 the botom of each enclosure. The heat lamps are just to create warm air temps.

Sara2 May 07, 2004 12:33 PM

Where did you hear they can't digest them?
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lisa_cristin May 07, 2004 02:31 PM

np

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