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Too Much Calcium?

sirfugu May 08, 2004 07:54 PM

I bought a new female 8 month old leo today and set her in her new home. I've been watching her and she's been going to town on her calcium dish. She just keeps licking at it. So i dropped a few crickets in there but she doesnt seem interested. i know its her first day and she prolly wont eat much anyway but is it a problem for her to eat too much calcium. I figure she will eat as much as she feels she needs but maybe it would be a good idea to take it out for tonite and put it back in in the morining.

Replies (15)

StinaUIUC May 08, 2004 08:31 PM

too much vitamin D3 can cause problems. Does your calcium have D3 in it?
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

sirfugu May 08, 2004 08:37 PM

It does have D3 in it. It's the same calcium i coat her crix in. Also it has a small amount of phosphorus in it too, what im using is ReptoCal.

StinaUIUC May 08, 2004 08:44 PM

For right now you're probably ok...however I would change your calcium dust as soon as possible to something without phosphorus (and depending on how much she uses her calcium dish after a while, something without D3). Phosphorus inhibits calcium absorption, so keeping a high calcium ratio is very important. It is completely unnecessary to supplement with phosphorus as they can get all they need from the feeder insects. You could replace your calcium with another just straight calcium dust, but then you will also need other supplements (for other vitamins and minerals). I would recommend Sandfire T-Rex ICB dusts (any species...they're all the same, just marketed differently). You can get it at just about any pet store, and all you do is dust at every feeding; no additional supplementation is needed (i.e. no calcium dish). It does supposedly have twice the recommended amount of vitamin D3...however I've never heard of anyone having a single problem with it.
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

GoldenGateGeckos May 08, 2004 09:43 PM

Excessive calcium (hypercalcemia) can cause: parathyroid hormone excess (often due to malignancies in the gland), bone cancer, hyperthyroidism, bone defects, cardiac changes, shock, renal hypertension and failure and death at especially high levels. Vitamin D in high doses (hypervitaminosis D) can cause excessive bone resorption as well as increased intestinal absorption of calcium.

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Marcia McGuiness
Golden Gate Geckos
www.goldengategeckos.com

Sybella May 10, 2004 05:16 PM

I didn't know and couldn't list the effects of too much calcium.

halfshell May 08, 2004 10:01 PM

excessive calcium in the short run can cause very serious renal and heart damage, in all living vertebrates (e.g., leos).

in the long run, bone deformities and neurological interference are possible side effects.

this is irregardless of the presence of D3.

StinaUIUC May 09, 2004 01:10 AM

not that it's impossible. Overdosing on vitamin D3 is more common and a bigger issue. btw...irregardless is not a word, the word is regardless....sorry, it's just a huge pet peeve of mine! lol
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

halfshell May 09, 2004 01:43 PM

its basic intro to bio-chem. "its nearly impossible to overdose on calcium" was your exact quote. this couldn't be further from the truth.

and by the way, "irregardless" is just fine. look it up or type it in a word-processor. its and adverb and adjective and is a proper blend of 'regardless' and 'irrespective' in North America.

boy, your batting a 1.000, huh?

thegeckobarn May 09, 2004 02:59 PM

so there's no reason for you to be.
If someone gives the wrong info...just nicely correct them. Bickering and bashing isnt going to get anyone ANYWHERE.

~Crystal
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Crystal Light (Yes..that's my real name)

*Whenever you lose a gecko, just think of it as God building on his own Leopard Gecko collection

The Gecko Barn

halfshell May 09, 2004 03:16 PM

i certainly didn't me to be rude, either.

this is an important forum for circulating information for hobbyists and i just get anxious and passionate when there's dangerous information being circulated.

StinaUIUC May 09, 2004 04:20 PM

Telling me I'm "batting 1.000" is quite rude...I'm sorry I said something not in the way I meant it...people make mistakes. And I did not give advice that is going to kill someone's animal...I didn't tell her to go shoving calcium down the geckos throat...I just highly doubt that the leo is going to eat enough to risk an overdose...It would be much more likely for it to overdose on the vitamin D3. And irregardless is not a PROPER word...just because people use it doesn't make it so.... "The label Non-standard does only approximate justice to the status of irregardless. More precisely, it is a form that many people mistakenly believe to be a correct usage in formal style but that in fact has no legitimate antecedents in either standard or nonstandard varieties."...that was taken from an American Heritage College Dictionary. My english class senior year of high school had a huge debate over it for basically an entire class period (which was about 90 min...) which the "irregardless followers" eventually lost. It may be a word, but that doesn't make it a proper word...the word you meant to use was regardless...using irregardless in its place is incorrect and I happen to find it very annoying.
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

halfshell May 09, 2004 04:51 PM

I'm sorry, but this is not the forum for what *you* think proper word usage is. This is not a formal forum, and "irregardles" is just fine.

Just because I pointed out your very very incorrect assertion does not mean that you need to lash out and attempt to correct my diction. *Thats my pet peeve*

I take it you are an English major (youre certainly not a biology major [or at least I hope not]).

I am happy to let this go. If you want to continue the discussion, feel free to email me.

StinaUIUC May 09, 2004 05:39 PM

No I'm certainly NOT an English major...I'd kill myself if I was.......I'm a pre-vet major (may as well be bio). I admitted that I said something incorrectly...that doesn't mean you have to say you hope I'm not a biology major...PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES. And the improper use of the word irregardless has nothing to do with my opinion...It's simple fact that it's improper. I'm aware this isn't a formal forum...I'm allowed to voice my opinions and pet peeves if I want. By the way...I have a 3.8smt gpa...and the only reason it's not 4.0 is because of B's in English (and after this semester b/c of B's in my chem class and lab)....so please don't tell me I don't belong in my major.

btw...I don't feel like e-mailing you because then it will go on and I just wanted to say this and be done with it. I won't even bother reading any responses you make because I don't feel like being unjustly insulted again.
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Christina

Leopard Gecko Morph Descriptions

2.3 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)
-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)
-1.0 tremper albino (Spitfire)
-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

-ignorance is not to be punished when one is trying to gain knowledge...what scares me is the vast number of people who, when given the information to gain knowledge, choose to ignore it.

halfshell May 09, 2004 06:19 PM

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TLB May 09, 2004 01:02 AM

Hi

"The Bean Farm" has Rep Cal that is straight calcium with nothing else in it at all. They sell the regular sized jars and also huge containers of the stuff. The jar is like $4.00 something, don't remember exactly and it is the stuff that was recommended by my vet.

She was probably really going at it, because maybe they didn't give her calcium dusted food etc. and she was really depleted in that area and needed a good intake of it.

TLB

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