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This clutch is doing better than the other lol. 15 eggs all togeather and 13 of them look good. It was from a Burgandy male bred to a normal female.

Here is the female before she laid the eggs. She had strech marks all over. She actually went past her lay date.

And here is the male that was used breeding that same female from above.

Thanks....Mike Haralambis & Eric Daley
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Mike and Eric
Captive Bred Reptiles

Very nice, Large clutch. What kind of incubator are you using? Is it home-made? If so, can you give some details about it or a few more photos? Thank you very much... John
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0.1 Albino
1.0 Pastel
1.1 100% Het Piebald
1.1 100% Het Butterscotch Ghost
1.1 100% Het Yellow Ghost
3.18 Normal Balls

It is home made.....I use a 10 gallon fish tank and surround the whole thing in styrafoam to insulate it. I use an underwater fish heater to heat the water to form humidity and heat. For the top I use the bottom of another 10 gallon tank with no styrafoam so you can see inside. I position a heat lamp with a 20 watt bulb right above the incubator for heat. I use 4 plastic pegs for the 1/2 inch plastic "tray" that the eggs rest on. I fill a 5 gallon bucket with water and pour it into the incubator. And I dont allow the eggs to rest directly on the plastic "tray" I put nylon screen inbetween the eggs and the tray. I have 2 thermomators (one on each side) and a humidity gauge in the middle.

here is a pic of the one clutch when they first came out.

Other than the one incident with these eggs and humidity its been pretty good. We have already had one clutch hatch successfully with it.

Thanks......Mike Haralambis & Eric Daley
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Mike and Eric
Captive Bred Reptiles

I like it a lot. Seems like this idea can be applied to any size tank. Very good, thank you and good luck with your eggs... John
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0.1 Albino
1.0 Pastel
1.1 100% Het Piebald
1.1 100% Het Butterscotch Ghost
1.1 100% Het Yellow Ghost
3.18 Normal Balls

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Mike and Eric
Captive Bred Reptiles

Why do you have the light bulb for heat if you have a fish heater for heat. If your incubator was insulated, there is not "heat from above" or "heat from below". As long as the heat doesn't escape (which it will out that glass) there will only be ambient heat, which is what you want for eggs.

That light is the cause of your shriveled up eggs. I'm 99.99% sure of it.
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Jeff, so when i build an incubator, insulate it well but i do not need any light? They can be in total darkness? Also, what about air, the closer you come to making it very insulated, the less air it would get, or does it come from evaporated water in the system? Thanks... John
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0.1 Albino
1.0 Pastel
1.1 100% Het Piebald
1.1 100% Het Butterscotch Ghost
1.1 100% Het Yellow Ghost
3.18 Normal Balls

I hazard that Ball eggs in the wild would be layed in burrows or in tunnels in the wild. I'm pretty sure that female wild BP's aren't laying their eggs in plain site and maternally incubating them while being completely vulnerable to predators.

No light = no harm as far as I can see.

Eggs need air, yes. But they don't respire like you or I do. They aren't going to use up a ton of air between the times that the over-curious keeper checks back on the eggs. Not at all.

Evaporated water is NOT air. Its water vapour. H2O in a gaseous form. The hydrogen and oxygen don't split, so water vapour does not give you breathable air.
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I see your point on in the wild, i am sure they are in darkness as well. Thanks on that point.

But, water and air do mix. I have salt water fish and a ref tank and i know that water surface area is very important to good oxygenated water since "H" and "O" molicules transfer between the air and water. So in the sump tank, you have air stones and tricklering going on to inclrease the surface area to super oxygenate the water. If Oxygen goes into the water, then it would make sense that oxygen comes out as the molicules are always forming and breaking apart.

But i could be wrong... John
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0.1 Albino
1.0 Pastel
1.1 100% Het Piebald
1.1 100% Het Butterscotch Ghost
1.1 100% Het Yellow Ghost
3.18 Normal Balls

Make sure to post pics of the hatchlings from all these gorgeous eggs!

Debra
Camlon Reptiles

WOW, 15???

Hard to believe that 15 came out of that girl.Good luck with those,

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Did you happen to get a weight before or after laying?

She tipped the scale before she laid. It goes up to 5 pounds and after we havent weighed yet.

Thanks......Mike Haralambis & Eric Daley
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Mike and Eric
Captive Bred Reptiles