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Hey all, I'm the proud owner of 3 veiled chameleons, some feathered and furred friends, and 2 golden bell frogs...at least there were 2 in there yesterday...

I bought one fat-arse golden bell on friday, very healthy. The second one was a normal-ish sized one about 2 1/4" long and of normal build. I fed them both about 8 crix between the two of them, and they had been fed at the store earlier in the week.

Anyway, there is only one frog in there now, and the other is nowhere to be found. The only hiding spots offered are behind groups of rocks, the waterfall, and foliage. There are no underwater caves or caverns in which he could be hiding.
Do you guys think he ate the other frog?

There were "bad" frogs in the store (ones that tended to eat large prey such as anolis) but they were always isolated from other animals. The ones that I bought were from the "good" tank.

Anyone have any ideas???

Thanks!!!

could it have escaped from the tank?

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. In many species, if there is a food item that is smaller than the frog itself, be it another frog, insect, or whatever else, the frog will eat it without hesitation. Granted it could have escaped or be holed up somewhere, but I would not put it past the other frog to have eaten it. Not sure if this species will sometimes burrow down into the substrate, but sometimes some species of tree frog will at least come down to the bottom and be under the first layer (not often, but I have seen it happen with some species). Good luck. Andy
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>>Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. In many species, if there is a food item that is smaller than the frog itself, be it another frog, insect, or whatever else, the frog will eat it without hesitation. Granted it could have escaped or be holed up somewhere, but I would not put it past the other frog to have eaten it. Not sure if this species will sometimes burrow down into the substrate, but sometimes some species of tree frog will at least come down to the bottom and be under the first layer (not often, but I have seen it happen with some species). Good luck. Andy

I always picture amphibians like fish....if it fits in their mouth it is food. Tendencies may vary, but if it is small and moves.......
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It turns out he had just escaped, though I don't remember leaving the top off while not looking...hmm...

A funny story evolved after I sent the original message:

The first frog dissapeared, and I thought he was hiding, as I didn't remember lesaving the top off. The next night at around 2 in the morning, I realise the top to the tank is off, and the second frog is gone. I looked for the second one, and found the first one not far from his tank. I put him back and he happily wet himself in the water. The second frog was still unaccounted for, so I looked long into the morning. I figured I could look the next day, and sure enough on mother's day, my mom found him all the way downstairs, down the hall and into the dining room sitting in a corner. I replaced that frog, who was also happy to wet himself in the water. The first dissapeared frog dissapeared again, but he was only hiding.

thanks for your help guys

btw, how do frogs do their business? I've never seen anything in a frog tank before.

I am glad to hear you found your frog, i think we have all left the top off one time or another. i know i have. most of the time frogs do their buisness in the water, but with the exception of tree frogs who sometimes i notice like to go on the plants. hope this helps