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Good for Beginners?

ZeroX May 09, 2004 11:41 AM

I've done research on Leopard Geckos AND Bearded Dragons and I have looked at some threads on this site, but I cannot decide between the two.

I am a beginner. I have never had a lizard before but I would like one. Which one would be better for a beginner?

I would like my lizard to be:

1. medium sized - not too small, not too big

2. friendly - I don't want it to scare away friends and family!

3. easy to care for - I don't want to spend laborous hours cleaning!

4. able to eat meat and veggies - I'm not too excited with the
whole cricket/mealworm thing

5. easy to tame - I like to pick up and hold animals without the fear of being bitten

If anyone can tell me whether a leo or a beardie is the way to go, please reply soon! Thanks in advance,

~ZeroX

Replies (4)

kephy May 09, 2004 12:22 PM

I don't have any geckos, so I can't give advise on them, I'll just tell you what I think about beardies.

I would recommend this lizard to anyone who is a beginner and wants a tame, friendly, moderate-sized lizard. They stay between 1.5 - 2 feet long, so they aren't so small you are afraid of breaking them, but they don't get enourmous like igauanas where you have to give up half of your bedroom for an enclosure. They do need space though, so definately plan on having a decent sized enclosure (4x2x2) by the time they are full grown. They are certainly friendly, mine are handled every week or so by a 3 and 7 year old, the kids love them! They are not always as friendly to their own kind, though, so please don't put two of them together unless you want to risk fighting or babies. They do take work, education, and responsibility, like any pet should.... but as far are lizards go they are fairly simple to care for.

As for meat, I'm not sure what you mean, but whether you get a gecko or a dragon you are going to have to get used to caring for and handling insects on a regular basis. Adults dragons can eat far less insects than if you start out with a baby that can pack down 50-100 small crickets a day. You can feed an adult salads every day and insects only a few times a week if you go that route. You can get a beardie that is raised cricket-free but I would still advise giving them hand-raised roaches, silkworms, or superworms on occasion, it is a valuable protien source for them that can't and shouldn't be substituted by ground beef or chopped up chicken. Mealworms are fine for an occasional treat, but aren't a great staple insect because of the hard outer shells and little nutritional value.

The best advice I think I can give you, no matter what you go with, is not to take any one person's advice as gospel. Do a lot of research on whatever animal you choose before spending your money on it. There are a lot of varied opinions and misinformation out there, and no one to regulate it. The more different sources you learn from, the more you will be able to make smart decisions on what is best. I can't stress enough the importance of thoughtful research before buying an exotic animal. Too many people will go to the pet store with no knowledge about the reptile they want, and assume the employee knows what's best, and this is bad. If a pet store tries to sell you heat lamps made especially for reptiles, or calcium sand because it's digestable and safe.... run as fast as you can. Lots of products marketed for reptiles are uneccesary, overpriced, and dangerous. A plain floodlight from wal-mart matched with a UVB light is more practical, and paper towels for bedding MUCH safer. Sometimes the simplest answer is the best answer.

I hope this helps you some. Here is a link that I believe is a good start to learning about beardie husbandry. Good luck!
http://www.beautifuldragons.com/

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2.0 bearded dragons (Ocho / Domo-kun)
0.1 kingsnake (Rio)
1.0 ferret (Playstation)
1.0 cat (Wally)
0.1 dog (Tima)

deuce02 May 09, 2004 12:23 PM

i believe beardeds to be very easy to take care of. There are some breaders ive talked with that are producing cricket frre babies. All my beardeds are friendly, never been bitten. They do require a much larger cage then a gecko, and they do need a lot more heat. Cage size should run 4'x2'x2 for a full grown adult dragon, be aware your looking at about 18-20" and 300 grams for a full sized adult. They are much larger then a gecko. Heat your looking at a basking spot of 110 . if you can provide these then beardeds are great pets.

hope this helps
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2.0.0 Veiled Chameleons (Eros & Himeros)
1.1.0 Senegal Chameleons (Francois & Fifi)
0.1.0 Adopted Beardie (Sissy)
1.0.0 Sandfire red/gold Beardie (Whitey Ford)
0.1.0 Red Flame/Red Hypo Beardie
1.1.0 German Giant Beardies
0.1.0 Brown Basilisk (Leroy, I know shes a girl!)
1.1.0 Chinese Water Dragon (Merl & Maggie May)
0.0.1 Marbled Gecko (Chalmers)
1.0.0 15 year old Eastern Box Turtle (Radar)

cillie May 09, 2004 02:52 PM

leos, they fit everything you want, eccept they dont eat veggies.

kevinR May 09, 2004 07:59 PM

We have been BD owners for 2 months, so I though that I could give some perspective. We have had the usual cats, fish and birds and never owned a reptile. After two months, I am ready to ditch the fish to have room for a second BD!!

We bought a 5-6 month old BD instead of a "baby". As a first time owner, we were a little scared to go for one that would need more care. I decided to go cricket free (not bug free) for a number of reasons (lower in the forum is more discussion than you may want), and bought Rep Cal juvanile formula. I hand fed the pellets until he was used to them.

My whole family loves Chomper. My 5 year old daughter takes him out and holds him at least once a day if not more, and loves to feed him super worms, give him his bath when needed, and just let him hang out with her. I get a kick out of the fact that he is a totally alien intelligence.

Our BD takes more work than either our cats or our fish. We harvest greens for him from our chemical free, dandilion and clover filled yard - now we have an excuse not to pull them. And his set up is not cheap. But if you order on-line you can save a bundle.

I would certainly go with a BD over geckos. Our friends with geckos never handle them for fear of losing tails which grow back but not as nice as before.

There is lots of info on the net, and ask questions when you have them on this forum. All my questions have been answered in a matter of hours (thanks everyone for that).

Kevin

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