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New to bloods!! What is the difference between.....

Thomas j May 09, 2004 04:01 PM

A borneo short tailed python and a blood python.
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Thomas Jones
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Replies (7)

sapphire_snake May 10, 2004 12:32 AM

Look at the snake, right under it's eye you should see some large scales coming up from the "Lip". If the scales touch the bottom of the eye it is a blood python, if there is a row of small scales that run between the large lip scale and the eye, it is a borneo stp.

If you want more info email/pm me and I will tell you of a website where I asked the exact same question and got awesome replies!
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1.1 Ball Python, 0.1 motley amel corn, 1.0 western hognose, 1.0 red blood

arboreals May 10, 2004 09:24 AM

just take a look at color. You have fugly borneo's and beautiful red, orange, or yellow bloods .

John

sapphire_snake May 10, 2004 12:33 PM

borneos are generaly rich browns, bloods can also be caramel colors, tan, light brown. Just depends.
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1.1 Ball Python, 0.1 motley amel corn, 1.0 western hognose, 1.0 red blood

jordanm May 10, 2004 11:17 PM

I beg your pardon, but Borneos are not fugly by any means. And no I'm not going to go attack bloods, cause I like them too.. Aside from local the main noticable difference is the color, there is also some size and temperment differences in the different species. Black short tails are the smallest at around 4 ft or so and are typically dark brown with orange silver or black heads. Borneos are about 4-5 ft and usually have some sort of brown coloration while some have alot of yellow and there are also some neat "mutations" that have red heads, striping, and marbled patterns. And red bloods are the biggest and can reach 5 ft plus and range from dark red all the way to brown. Hope that sheds a little simplistic light onto the situation. Here's a picture of one of my "fugly" Borneo ST's.

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"It's my snake, I trained it, so I'm going to eat it!" - Mad Max, The Road Warrior

arboreals May 11, 2004 03:43 PM

That's correct they are Fugly LOL. Not really....kind of a sad attempt at humor. Last time I went over to ben seigals and saw those side stripe borneo's I actaully liked them. Main reason I don't like them is color but these were neat! anyways now I'm rambling...

John

bloodpythons May 15, 2004 10:28 AM

...when you get it, you "get it!" Borneos are awesome - especially that girl!!!

K

>>I beg your pardon, but Borneos are not fugly by any means. And no I'm not going to go attack bloods, cause I like them too.. Aside from local the main noticable difference is the color, there is also some size and temperment differences in the different species. Black short tails are the smallest at around 4 ft or so and are typically dark brown with orange silver or black heads. Borneos are about 4-5 ft and usually have some sort of brown coloration while some have alot of yellow and there are also some neat "mutations" that have red heads, striping, and marbled patterns. And red bloods are the biggest and can reach 5 ft plus and range from dark red all the way to brown. Hope that sheds a little simplistic light onto the situation. Here's a picture of one of my "fugly" Borneo ST's.
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googo151 May 10, 2004 12:56 PM

Hey,
Well for starters, neither of the two animals is found on either of the others island distribution. For example, Borneo Short-tails, are found only on the island of Borneo, while Red Bloods, can be found on various islands, not including Borneo. There are no reports of either of the two forms having ever been found on the others home turf. Bloods, however, can be found all the way from the mainland, known as Peninsular Malaysia, to Cambodia on the coast, to Viet Nams Makong River.

The only significant river in the south of Viet Nam, is the Mekong river, which flows from China into Laos. Then, from Laos the Mekong travels through Cambodia into Viet Nam. There are also, insular island forms of the Bloods, found on islands along the Malacca straits to along the eastern coast of Sumatra: Bangka Island being one of them.

In color and morphology, the animals are very distinct, having been isolated from one another by a large ocean mass. The two short-tails have evolved very differently with scalation and coloration setting them apart outwardly and respectively when viewed side by side. There is a very good paper written in colaboration by: J. SCOTT KEOGH, DAVID G. BARKER and RICHARD SHINE. If you need a copy of it, let me know and I'll email you a copy of the paper.

-Angel
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