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to todd.... maybe u should assume buddy... i did do my research actually

bballfan May 12, 2004 09:56 PM

How would you know if I didn't read or not? And is beign fifteen bad? Is there somethign wrong with it? I appreciate the help but when you go aroudn assuming... just dont. I do know more about them than that they get big,
smart---. just so you know I even called bob clark and he said retics were docile. I don tknow about you, but i dont plan on getting killed by a snake anytime soon

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TenorGoddess May 12, 2004 10:34 PM

Heya,

I think it's great you spoke with Bob and all, that you are showing you really want to know about these animals (that's a great step to take with any animal), however, that's a pretty blatant statement "retics are docile".
Um...I can say that about MOST animals. True, they have a docile nature if they are captive born and bred and IF that is the personality of the snake. It has to be THAT combination not just a generalization about a species. There are always exceptions to the rule (I should know, I own most of them. LOL!)

Please remember, no matter how tame or docile a species is SAID to be, that all depends on several factors, not just whether it's captive born and bred or not, but also on the way it is housed, fed, handled (how often it is or isn't) and the particular personality of the snake. EVERY animal is unique exactly like people. Just please don't fall prey to the generalization factor.

Amanda Rose

bballfan May 12, 2004 11:09 PM

Just wondering TenorGoddess, how long have you had retics and how long have you had exp. with large constrictors? Like the others have been suggesting, did you start with another large one before going to the mother-of-all-large (retic)? If so, which one?

TenorGoddess May 12, 2004 11:27 PM

If you scroll down a bit, you'll see another response of mine to one of your posts (it's another virtual essay. LOL!)
It's entitled "on tameness and CB".

Lemme know if you have any additional questions.

Amanda Rose

built4spd13 May 14, 2004 06:59 PM

I agree 100% with Amanda (so great to see you again by the way).
If a retic is going to be your first "big snake" you may want to reconsider. Especially if it's supposed to be your first snake. Retics have been known to be the most tempermental snakes sold in the pet trade other than a Blood or Rock python and they get huge. The sweetfaced 17" hatchling that you buy can turn into a 20' foot pissed off python with many many razor sharp teeth. And if that happens, then what? I currently own Retics, Burms, & Balls. I have one Retic that is a CB/H baby (from Prehistoric Pets) that is piss a$$ mean. He is in a large cage and eats rabbits. He is 10' and is a handful. I end up getting bit 80% of the time when I go to clean his cage. He shouldn't act that way because he is CB/H right???? Like Amanda says whether the animal is CB/H or not has nothing to do with it. Temperment in snakes, or any reptile for that matter, is an individualistic thing. Like humans.
I totally commend you on reaseaching and asking questions. That's awesome!
Just so you know I am 27 yrs old and have 10 years of reptile ownership and breeding and I bought my first Retic just a little over a year ago. Time, patients, and knowledge are major virtues when dealing with this species.
Best of luck.
Christine

TenorGoddess May 15, 2004 01:03 PM

Thanks Christine! It's great to be back on the forum. I'll be on many of the ones I used to inhabit from now on. ;D
I'll have a the month of June to do nothing but spoil my animals and be myself as my last day at work is the third. woo!

So, you'll all be seeing PLENTY of me. bwa ha ha! Is the world prepared? I'm not sure....I'm just not sure. LOL!

Hugs!

Amanda Rose

kevyn May 13, 2004 01:37 AM

It's not that I think that being 15 is too young for owning a Retic, but I think a person needs to gain more experience with giants before getting the biggest of them all. The potential for something to go wrong with Retics is much greater than with a BCI or a BCC. I wouldn't recommend a cobra for a first hot for similar reasons.

echo0330 May 13, 2004 01:17 AM

Yes this is all out of my opinion, but you would make a horrible owner for a large constrictor. you have shown us nothing but ignorance time and time again.. and its only been 2 days since you got here!!!

retics are NOT like ball pythons

When you have food for them or if they THINK you have food for them they ARE AGRESSIVE

Breeders who sell retics are goingt o say they are calm

after a year of have it, it will be able to KILL you at any time it sees fit

a group of 15y/os shouldnt be anywhere near a retic

owning a retic dosent make you cool

and finally this isnt the "bballfan Forum" so pleas do us the favor and dont start a new thead every time you have a 5 word comment!

get a gold fish and work your way up.

have a good night....
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-echo-

zx7trev May 13, 2004 09:00 AM

Your taking the right steps in learning before you buy. Be careful, these animals, tame or not, can be dangerous when they mature, which happens very quickly if you are feeding well. I would advise against getting a Boa or something smaller that is equally aggresive at feeding time as a first large constrictor, and see how that goes. Stepping into Retic's right out of the box can be a little overwhelming. Keeping Colubrids before doesn't count as experience either.
Echo...you can find better ways to voice your opinion without being a prick. If you wouldn't say it in person like that, which, if your a normal Homo Sapien, you would not, then don't type it like that. Its easy to leave flames, but quite another to be man enough to stand in someone's face and talk like that, particularly an interested kid. If your tired of dealing with his posts, then stop coming here and reading them. If the stove is hot, don't touch it...pretty easy lesson. If you don't like it, then don't participate. I welcome new keepers with questions. The more, the merrier. In a couple of years, this kid will be voting on your ability to even keep animals in your state. Better to educate him now, than have to deal with the consequences of his vote later. Play nice. It comes back around.

Peace

T~

zx7trev May 13, 2004 09:02 AM

I meant to say, I would advise against getting a retic, and going with a Boa or something as a first large constrictor. Sorry, at work and distracted

T~

toddbecker May 13, 2004 05:44 PM

You know one thing bball is that I have assumed nothing. I have made all of my posts asa direct reflection of the information that you have presented. When some one comes out and askes if retics are like balls then they have not been seriously doing research because if they have then they would no that there is absolutely no comparison between them. I also make the statements that I do as a direct reflection of your attitude you give others. Everyone here has tried to be pleasant and helpfull but whenever someone suggests you not jump into retics with never before having any experience you get defensive and arguementative. Myself and others are stating not to get a retic as a first snake for very good reasons but you do not want to hear it so if that is the case then stop posting questions that you do not want to hear the correct answers to.
It is a good thing that you have called Bob Clark and talked to him but one thing you have to understand is that Bob is a business man and he will tell you things to make a sale. Now this is nothing against him, he is a great man and I have bought snakes from him and am about to make a large purchase from him myself but that doesn't mean that his word should be god and that he might not tell you something to aid his sale. Todd

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