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I would prefer one that believes in basic human rights for people other than Americans....

I would also like one that DOESN"T create more terrorists by "netting" civilians in Iraq with the hopes of catching some "evil doers." ...and leading an administration that then tortures those civilians...just in case they are evil doers that have intel....

I would have to insist that this new president did not arrest people without charging them with a crime, providing legal councel, or any anticipated release date.

Seriously, are we really hurting our enemies...or are we giving them more resolve, and creating more recruites?
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Ahhh me to

but

There is only one place to find a president like that..

And you wont find him/her while awake

Actually we had one but he is unable to serve....I really miss Ronald Reagan.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

I think we has him in Dennis Kucinich, a soft spoken man who actually had a MESSAGE for the American public and a vision for changing our perceptions of oursevles as Americans and our image worldwide.

But alas....such as him will never win an election.
Cause it takes:

Money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money ,money
Endorsements, enodorsements, endorsements, endorsments
Political ties to corporations. Owned by corporations.
Membership in the "Skull&Crossbones club"
Illuminadi clearance.

And a willingness to say whatever the public wants to hear.
Even if it is to their detriment.

Sobeks right...I think it is nap time.....

Sincerely,

Fred Albury

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I agree, that president is one we'll only find in our dreams.

But, in the meantime, I'll settle for Bush - I hate to imagine what life would be like with a weasel-faced, pathological liar for president like Al Gore (he invented the internet, remember??? Or so Gore says).

~~Dusty Windom
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Too bad Dusty you were not old enough to appreciate Reagan when he was in office. For all the faults that some might claim of him...(Reaganomics and contra were blown way out of prportion) He was A gentleman, one of the most likeable Presidents...and best communicators on the international scene we have ever had.

The Eighties were a much better time to live in because he was in office.

I think it would change your opinion.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

lol I never said I didn't like Reagan. Just that I MUCH prefer Bush over Gore - and I'd vote the same way a million times over, even knowing the outcome of the next 4 years. I lived during the 80s.. but I was way too young to think about all that stuff!

Honestly, I believe Bush was reacting in the best way possible, he believed, to events that were beyond his control. And about half of Americans went along with that. The other half were still pouting over that they didn't win the debate over the polls in Florida!

~~Dusty Windom
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True.. But it gets blamed on Florida, does it not?
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Watch it guys...we still got boxes of spare chads down here....(lol)

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

I should point out that I was so fed up with the choices last election that I wrote in;

James Stewart for Pres

John Wayne for V P

Seemed like better choices....

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

LMAO!!! That is the first time in a LONG time that anything on the web has literally made me laugh out loud!!!

~~Dusty Windom
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lol thats a joke right?

Mr. Ray gun was not all candy and cookies

One of his most biggest failures committed while in office was

THE WAR ON DRUGS

A war that obviously has been lost along time ago..

The war on drugs is like the war on terrorism.

Just as there are more people on drugs, there will be more terrorist.

Ray gun was a puppet president, we all know who pulled the stings.

PUPET MY A__!!!!!!!

I'd back off Herman. Now your dishin the man who was most instrumental in freeing East Germany. A little gratitude would be more in line.

I don't know if you are even old enough to remember the Reagan years...I AM. You certainly were not in this country, so his greatest accomplishments (and the American Perspective) are totaly lost on you.

He was the president that brought us back from the humiliation of Nam and reestablished the USA as a country to be respected. Besides that the economy boomed in his years. He returned Pride to the American People...something you can't apreciate or measure.

That's something the late coming statistic mongering liberals have tried and failed to trash.

I can agree with some of your recent foriegn policy Ideas...But cut the garbage on someone you know next to nothing about.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Thank you! I just didn't know how to put it into words.

And, so, sobek isn't American?? Hmm.. That puts a whole new perspective on everything he says. Unless I misread that, of course.

~~Dusty Windom
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Poor Frank, get off your soap box.

#1 I'm not herman

#2 I am an American, born and raised. Sorry Windom

#3 I am old enough to remember Ray-Gun.

#4 I never said any thing about the economy

#5 His war on drugs was/is a total disaster, Leading only to over populated prisons, tons of wasted money and, made drug dealers RICH RICH RICH. If you tell me that it was/is a success, then someones smoking good

>#2 I am an American, born and raised. Sorry Windom

Oh, Darn.. Now I'll have to re-alter my perspective!

So what IS your name, Sobek? Just out of curiosity?

~~Dusty Windom
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>>Oh, Darn.. Now I'll have to re-alter my perspective!

Sorry to disappoint you..lol I'm flattered your spending so much time thinking about me though

>>So what IS your name, Sobek? Just out of curiosity

I don't understand why that is important, but to humor you, its Devin

Well Devon...In the sake of fairness I apologise to Herman for mistaking him for you. He at least had the excuse of Not being American. You on the other hand, Have no excuse for slandering a president that was the best of my generation (and I'm old enough to remember the Eisenhower administration).

That Reagan was rich? SO WHAT? What President in the History of the US wasn't (except Grant who blew his fortune on bad investments).

So cut the Righteous Crap! The Proof of what I say lies in the fact that Reagan was so popular that not only was he elected (by a extrenmely healthy margin) TWICE...Bush senior rode his coat tails into the next presidency.

It's funny that top liberals like Mondale (who ran against him) liked Reagan...Now you Johny come lately liberals trash him.

Star Wars was an idea ahead of it's time...and that it didn't work? At least this was a president with imagination...one who was not afraid to look at creative answers.

Of course that means nothing because he was rich....Right?

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

By the way Devin...How old are you?

I'm 52.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

OH yeah..That war on drugs that was going on BEFORE Reagan took office and AFTER...Hey why single him out? If the prisons became over crowded during his administration at least Drug dealers in Large numbers were getting arrested...And thats wrong????

I guess you would have let them stay on the streets so the rest of the convicts would be more comfortable?

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Frank, don't let ya blood pressure rise.

Now I see why Rodney has such a hard time talking to you. You obviously dont read the post..

>>That Reagan was rich? SO WHAT?

Where did I say I had a problem with how much money he had? I said his war on drugs made DRUG DEALERS RICH, your not suggesting he was a drug dealer are you? lol

I didn't say I had a problem with Reagan, But When you act like his presidency was flawless, I just mentioned the failure that is THE WAR ON DRUGS.

and yes FRANK

The US had policies about drugs, but both Ronald and his wife made it "THE WAR ON DRUGS" A war that has yet to be won......

>>If the prisons became over crowded during his administration at least Drug dealers in Large numbers were getting arrested...And thats wrong????

Well nothing would be wrong with it, if THEY GOT THE DRUG DEALERS. Its a well known FACT FRANK that 99% of drug related imprisonment are drug USERS. And its not just during his administration FRANK its TODAY

Lets not get our feathers ruffled Frank. Lets READ THE POST.

22 Frank y'all wanna know my favorite position next? lol

Foolish me....I never knew that? and I suppose that none of these Poor Suffering Users ever steal or kill to get their drug money...and none ever sell!! Gosh, I didn't know that (see I do have a sense of humor).

Well known fact...A very large percentage of repeat criminals are also drug users. Your point?

Funny you don't smear me like that in the responses to posts I have made backing your point HYPOCRITE. Does that mean I'm not reading yours when I agree with them?

Calling someone a puppet (your first post on Reagan) sounds suspiciously like you have a problem....Contradicting yourself.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Oh...I almost forgot (silly me). Judging from your "Quality" response I am guessing what you mean by your favorite position....Funny how when someone can't support a position they go to the gutter....

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

>lol I'm flattered your spending so much time thinking about me though

I'm sure you are, Devin. And no, it wasn't important - just pure curiosity.

And I do definitely agree with Frank on his points. Can you come up with something besides just bashing Reagan to make your point?

~~Dusty Windom
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>>And no, it wasn't important - just pure curiosity.

It must have been, you took the time to ask

I noticed that you didn't take the time to attack me on the "Political joke post above (I guess that's because I agreed with you there).....Reguardless of you (lol) position.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

>>Funny you don't smear me like that in the responses to posts I have made backing your point HYPOCRITE.

I didn't "smear" you Franky boy I just said you didn't read my post, or took it the wrong way.

>> Foolish me....I never knew that? and I suppose that none of these Poor Suffering Users ever steal or kill to get their drug money...and none ever sell!! Gosh, I didn't know that (see I do have a sense of humor).

I never said they didn't steal or kill. But what about the LARGE NUMBER of "non violent" drug offenders. Take POT smokers or instance, who would you consider more dangerous? A drunk? or a pot smoker? I never heard of anyone beating their spouse cuz they smoked to much reefer.. With your permission Frank, I'd like to e-mail you some links to some videos, about the war on drugs..

>>Calling someone a puppet (your first post on Reagan) sounds suspiciously like you have a problem....

Franky FYI all presidents are puppets, being 52 I'd think you'd have realized this by now.

>>Oh...I almost forgot (silly me). Judging from your "Quality" response I am guessing what you mean by your favorite position....Funny how when someone can't support a position they go to the gutter....

Didnt know you were so sensitive, I'll try not to work in the blue But all these personal ?'s, Like that one wacko snakefella that tried to look up where I lived. You never know what kinda sickos are out there..

>>I noticed that you didn't take the time to attack me on the "Political joke post above (I guess that's because I agreed with you there).....Regardless of you (lol) position.

lol No, its because that post has nothing to do with this post Frank, dont worrie, we're still pals

~SoBeK~

P.S. I have no hard feelings towards the Gipper, We have seen far worse "Dubya", but its past due to re-evaluate this "War On Drugs".

It's not that I am sensitive (so I write poetry (lol)). Its just that with all the losers we have had for president this one was different. Look at the percentages he won by, He was not perfect...but he was what the country needed which is why he got himself reelcted and then Bush (his VP.)

Ron Reagan for all his faults was one who made people feel good about this country. The man had class. That is something so missing today that perhaps I am defensive of a time that wasn't all cynical. If you watched his debates and campaigns he did not use the disgusting attacks that todays pollitico's use. Yet he had guts enough to face problems overseas.

Yeah that did make him better. And if I am defending a PUPPET as you say...It was a far better Puppet than those who came before and after that I have seen.

I am reminded of certain harsh words he said to Mondale (his much younger opponent) at a debate...in response to the democratic claim that he was too old to serve:

"I refuse to allow ageism to be an issue in this campagain. No matter how young and inexperienced my opponent might be."

How could you not like a man with that sense of humor?

Frank

Oh...I view pot like I do alcohol. I inhaled. However, the pot of today is far different from the stuff we had in the sixties...Today I don't toke, Don't smoke and don't drink.
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>>It's not that I am sensitive (so I write poetry (lol)).

Its ok to be sensitive Frank. Its A Natural feeling

>>Ron Reagan for all his faults was one who made people feel good about this country.

AGREED!! This is one the Gipper gets 11/10.
And the the people want a guy "or gal" that makes them feel good, Reagan had a good running image. He knew how to talk to people, he was a actor if I'm not mistaken?

But the "war on drugs" is another story.. Do you mind if I email you a link?
~SoBeK~

You mean you've never heard of BEDTIME FOR BONZO...? (a role that came back to haunt Reagan)

"Dutch" Reagan was a sports announcer who went to Hollywood and made a few dozen movies (either as a lead or supporting actor).
He then hosted the very popular series DEATH VALLEY DAYS before going into politics.

There's the thing history has a bad habit of missing. You may look coldly at his record...But the personality of the man was so likeable that you could not dislike him. Also he was as clean living as his image (No Kennedy or Clinton scandals).

I have emphasized that he was a gentleman and that is probably very hard to appreciate in today's cynical world.

It is a sad thing that the bad press that Reagan got was after he left office and a new generation (that still exists)that love to drag anything worthwhile thru the mud attacked him because of his age and anything else they could ridicule him for.

Maybe it is hard to understand with today's morality, but that was one presidency that you did not hear everyone Complain all the time about the man in the White House. If it had been legal he would have easily snared a third term.

And that is why (though he was not perfect)so many of us who remmember those years really miss not having him in office.

Frank
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for late night TV. Its almost painful to listen to him talk. When he does put a sentence together it always ends with a tie in to terrorism, no matter what the original topic was. I just hope we can get a president who will use his brain and pay attention to whats going on in the rest of the world instead of having his head up his... Just my 2 cents.

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that tortures civillians. Have you ever heard of crime in the US? in SE DC there is like 1 violent crime a day. In loudon, fairfax, arlington, and alexandria VA there are several gangs (MS13 is the largest) that terrorize the local public. Just recently some 15 year old kid had his hands chopped off my a rival gang member with a machete. Newyork, LA, chicago, san fran, and sandiego all have a lot more violent crimes than in DC and northern VA combined. Oh my gosh, some "civillians" were victims of "atrocities". Have you ever thought about crime in the US? the atrocities commited in my own beautiful country are much worse than the "atrocities" commited by US troops in Iraq. The Iraqi people should be THANKING us for not fireing back when US troops are under fire or by conducting mass raids when there are roadside bombings. I have a feeling the civilians killed by US troops were not all killed by US troops, some were probably killed by roadside bombings, collateral damage from the "Islamist" terrorists, etc. When people complain about murders in Iraq yet dont even give a **** when someone is murdered and raped in the US, they just piss me off.
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I have a feeling the "gangs" you refer to are not directed by a SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENT to PROTECT AND LIBERATE the people of Alexandria, VA.

Are ther "gangs" held to account by the Geneva Convention?

It saddens me that you would cheapen the existence of other human beings by vitue of their non-American citizenship with sarcasm..."Oh my gosh...," as if to use sarcasm as a witness to how right you are...

Of course not all civilian casualties are caused by U.S. troops, no one said that....But most of the civilian casualties in Iraq occuring now ARE a result of us being there...the reasons for which keeps changing.

And in closing...no one said they didn't care about people being murdered and raped in the United States because THAT WASN'T THE TOPIC OF THE POST...which you might try reading.

Respectfully, Chris Olson
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How am i cheapening there existence by saying "O my gosh"? the point i was trying to make was that the "atrocities" are way overblown. No one cares that some black person in DC was killed today, yet if an iraqi prisoner gets "beaten" by a US soldier the news is all over it. We are going to spend millions on investigating the crimes commited by US soldiers in Iraq, when 10 times (probably more than that) as many people were victims of violent crimes today in the US. Why should i spend money to investigate the crimes of some soldiers in Iraq when if i were to go to SE DC i would have to fear for my life because of bad policing? people care more about the well being an Iraqi who probably attacked US soldiers than of the poor black person who was shot today. If an Iraqi is raped by US soldiers it is going to be the biggest news anywhere, but if someone is raped in a city noone will care (unless it was a rich white girl). Why?
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