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This little boa just shed and had its first meal and we are certainly blown away! He is from a Salmon het. for Blood bred to a Salmon het. for Blood.

Thanks,
Rich and John

These are some of the best boas I've seen. Can't wait to see them in person. Congrats on all your litters so far this season. Take care

Paul

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Mike Weitzman
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How dark do you think these will get as they age? For instance, some of the Salmons get pretty dark as adults and I have seen pics of adult Bloods that look almost black. I suppose these will darken somewhat as well??? Any thoughts?

Linda,

Great question! Let me clarify first that this is John and Rich may have a completely different response, but let me take a stab at your question. Yes we see some Salmons darken with age and yes we see some Blood Boa's darken with age. On the same note, we see Salmons get lighter with age and also Blood Boa's that get lighter with age. I believe that this will follow the same path and we will see some that get bright red, and others that will get dark red. I think it will vary. Already in the 2 litters we have so far we see a large difference in the colors from one Salmon to the next, from one Blood Boa to the next, and from one Bloody Salmon to the next.

Im sure the goal will be to produce the most brilliant phase of red imagineable, and then plug that into the Sunglow project, both on the Kahl side and the Sharp side My 2 cents!

Thoughts?
John

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Ron Michelotti

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Outstanding looking animal beyond beautiful..
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thats all i can say, damn

The color in these babies is really impressive. I think the bloody salmons will keep their color and not darken too much. If they do darken I think each generation will lead to better colored animals. I think this can be achieved with the bloods also. It makes sense to me that the bloods that we see as adults which were imports are the ones that darkened up and survived in the wild; I would imagine that animals that stayed really red may have been easy prey. In captivity through line breeding I think we can develop bllod lines with lots of red color as adults.
Bill Kirby

I know we have had a pretty long conversation about this, and I know your personal feeling is the striping is like blue eyes in humans.

My new question would be, do you still believe this after the litters your seeing this season. Me personally the more and more litters I see from DIFFERENT BREEDERS useing your salmon line, and BOOM STRIPED HYPOS. Not only that, look at the strip on this bloody you just posted. It looks IDENTICAL to the strip on the "strypo" hypo I sold a few weeks back. It also looks identical to many of the stripes Ive seen you produce over the years. I really wish there were a way for you to check through your pairings and past breedings ect, and see if there is a connection. Allthough Im sure with all thats on your plate thats not a worry at this time.

Just an interesting thought, and congrats again on the amazing season your experienceing.

Mickey Hinkle
The Lizard King Reptiles

In regards to your question on striping, I do think alot of the striping we see is just like humans having blue eyes and passing on blue eyes. We know there certainly is striping in the reptile world that is a genetic trait.

I do see alot of striping with the Salmon trait. But, I feel that if you have 2 animals with a little bit of striping and they produce babies, the stripes are enhanced. And the more striping you have in the parents, the more striping you can get in the offspring. This is not like the striping we see in the striped Ball Python. I do feel in this new litter of Bloody Salmons there might be something going on with the stripe and am anxious to see how it plays out in the future.

I know when I look at the animals that are albino het. for stripe in breeding it really doesnt play out as do most recessive traits. It will be interesting to see how the Striated Boa, an incredibly striped boa that Bob Clark has, plays out in the future.

One of the aspects of the salmon trait is alot of diversity in pattern and aberrancies, but I cant say that the striping we see in Salmons is a dominant or recessive aspect of the salmon trait as we consider other traits we work with.

Maybe a better person to answer this question would be Dave or Tracy Barker. Their understanding of genetics would certainly surpass mine.

Good question! Maybe others have comments or experiences on this.
Rich

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