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This snake came from brazil, 5-6 years ago.
it's length = 50-60 cm.
can anyone identify it?

another pic.

Loxocemus bicolor, maybe? Looks like it, except for the head which looks too narrow in the pics.
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isn't it to small to be Loxocemus bicolor?

Have you had it for 5-6 years and it's just 50-60 centimeters now? I would say that's small for a New World Python, but they only average 30-40 inches as adults. 60 centimeters is approx 2 feet, or 24 inches. It sure looks like a Loxocemus in coloration, and locale is right for it, too.
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For several good reasons.

It is too slender.

It has fewer-larger scales.

the eyes are too big and protruding.

The snout on bicolor is pointed not rounded.

I keep Loxenmus and have never seen one with a yellow throat.

And most important: This snake is from Brazil. Loxemus do not occur south of Honduras.

I am working on this and when i have a suitable candidate I will submit it.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

http://www.vpi.com/5VPIBreeders/NewWorldSunbeamSnake/NewWorldSunbeamSnake.htm

The link is to the V.P.I. page on Loxocemus. You are right about locale. My bad. Their range is Central America, not south, as i had mistakenly thought. They mention that their range is farther south than Honduras. The pic in the middle shows a Loxocemus with a yellow throat. I agree with you on the eyes being too protruding and the snout, and it is definately slender. If you find out what it is, let us know? I'm curious...........
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0.0.1 Pink Zebra Beauty Tarantula
2.0 Solomon Island Boas

I have to tell you that this is one difficult kid to nail. It really looks like it ought to fall in the rearfang groups represented by Oxyrhopus, Psuedoboa and Clelia. Tripanurgos is similar but not quite. Another strong contender is Chironius.

I am beginning to wonder if this is a dark phase of a normaly lighter snake.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

I found this one, Frank....what do you think? Most pics I've seen of this snake are green, but there seems to be a brown phase too.
Link

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Shoot...the link won't work?? Let me try again.
Link

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OK...last attempt, and then I'm calling it quits. The name is Drymoluber, and this is a pic of a brown phase....
http://www.projectamazonas.com/Images/Flora&Fauna/FloraFaunaGalleries/reptiles%20colubrid%20snakes/Drymoluber%20dichrous-web1.jpg
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Pulled up my own pictures (I have a very good photo of the brown phase) and...Very Close, but the head is not right. Drymobular has the typical "Racer Ridge" between eye and rostral. Also while it does have large eyes they are flat. They do not "Bulge" like in the photo.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

I understand you all gave up!!!!

LOL...I left it to the pro, rearfang! I can't find a dang thing!!
Do you know what it is, or are you really looking for an answer?!
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0.0.2 fish 1.2 cats 3.1 kids 1.0 husband and now...
0.0.1 Pink Zebra Beauty Tarantula
2.0 Solomon Island Boas

I am really looking for an answer!!!

I have spent the last week going thru all my records and I have come up with no match. It is similiar but not quite like several snakes but it doesn't quite click. This snake may not be in the general liturature yet, or is abberant.

The problem is the eyes and facial structure are not like anything that matches that body type that I can find. It actually reminds me more of a African House Snake.

You might have better luck if you contact Bill Lamar. My last record of him places him at The University of Texas, where he is a research associate.

Please post it if you get a ID from him.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

thanks I will.