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hypoboa1 May 19, 2004 11:52 AM

I pretty much believe I already know the answer to this question,But as I promised my 12 year old daughter,I will post the question!I have an 11 month old columbian redtail,or shall I say she has!She purchased him from a local pet store for basically nothing, an he had a broke back,their was a call made to a vet an because of the vet not being that knowladgeable about boas,their was nothin that could be done!He restricts on a small pk rat every 7 to 10 days,he sheds on his own with no problems,but the bigger he gets the bigger the knot gets in his back an here recently he has started having trouble usint the bath room,his last shed,he had some shed left on his tail an it had been awhile since he had used the bathroom an I was trying to get the tip cleaned off an both hemi's protrude an I thought are you gay,lol an he let loose all over his tank an me!So it has come time to eat an he ate with no problems an 7 days has passed an he hasnt gone to the bathroom yet!As I am not very good at explaining things I tried to let her know that it might be best to put him to sleep,but I hit a brick wall,she was very angry with me crying an all cause she has loved little man sence he was a baby!So as promissed if anyone can help me with this problem it would be awsome,an PLEASE Remember its a 12 year olds heart we are talking about maybe you all can do a better job at explaining why than me!Thanks Charles![HYPOBOA]

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bcijoe May 19, 2004 12:01 PM

maybe explain that the ONLY way for HER beloved boa to get better is by going to Boa Heaven, where he will be 'fixed', and sent back in 'new and improved' condition to spend the rest of HIS life with HER.
Now..
The ONLY way to do this is to put him down (don't say that part). The 'entrance' is through injection (or however you put him down) and the way he comes back is, he is 'reintroduced' to the original pet store from where he came..

Have the pet shop owner have a new boa set aside around back, and have him take him out as the 'reincarnate' when you and her go to the store.
So it's kind of like the Tooth Fairy.. leave a tooth, comes back as a dollar... it's just the time in between and the 'process' which is left to mystery.

If you can pull this off, you are good..
not hard to do, just hard to convince her this is the good/right way...

my $.02

take care - Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

bcijoe May 19, 2004 12:03 PM

Ok, maybe I was thinking a 4 year old girl..lol.. now that I think of it, 12 year olds pretty much already forgot about the tooth fairy!! lol..

Again, he has to go to boa heaven, and then, as an act of love, he will sacrafice himself and give his twin brother in exchange, which will 'reappear' in the pet store.. i don't know..
Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Euclid May 19, 2004 12:27 PM

HAHA.....you're intentions are admirable though...

If it really is necessary to put your snake down, I would just explain to your daughter that its going to be a slow painful death if you don't put it out of its misery. Explain that the snake is not happy. Then take her to the pet store, and let her fall in love with a new one!

snakeman2004 May 19, 2004 12:17 PM

Maybe you copudl try contacting a vet who specializes in Boas? From what I understand there may not be much that can be done, but I am by no means an expert. I would have an expery klook him over before making any final decisions, rather than relying on a vet who admittedly doesn't know about boas...Asf ro your child - at 12 I wouldn't have bought any BS, but not all 12 yr olds are the same. I was about 13 or 14 when my grandma died, and I learned about death.. Maybe it's time for her to take this step, painful as it may be? I lost my first puppy at 5, and he sure as hell didn't come back...

Randall_Turner May 19, 2004 01:00 PM

Hmm.. That is a tough one.. I would go about it a bit differently. I would try and avoid letting her know he will be put down. I would probably explain that you found someone who specializes in the care of sick and injured boas and they offered to take him so he has a happy healthy rest of his life. And also say that he is offering to send her a new boa that is completely healthy. (at which point you can take the injured boa to the vet to be put down, and also swing by and pick up a new one in better condition for her to now care for)
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Randall L Turner Jr.
www.aircapitalconstrictors.com
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srsnakes May 19, 2004 03:53 PM

Well at 12 years old it is a hard thing to make your little daughter give up her favorite animal but I dont think you should lie to her about the condition of her snake. Explain to her that the snake is in pain and that if you love something you wouldnt want to put it through as much suffering as this animal is going through. She will hurt and that is fine, but in the end she will UNDERSTAND what needs to be done to help end her pets suffering. I would allow her to accompany her pet to the vet for the finals moments and then maybe a week or so later offer to start looking for a new pet snake. There is nothing that will be able to replace the feelings that she has for this animal, but at 12 she is capable of knowing that the animal is sick and in pain and that the best think for her pet is to not be in anymore pain.. Explain it to her... She will understand and it will teach her that sometimes it will hurut to do the right thing...Good luck..I dont envy your position.

Sincerely,
Rose Hipskind

PS i know its easier said that done but she will make the right choice and she will learn from the experiance which is the more important part of this event.
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snakepimp May 19, 2004 05:39 PM

I love this forum, and there are many admirable breeders here, but what is happening to our language? I have counted over 20 misspellings in just 4 posts, all from different people, and all within 24 hours. I am a spelling and grammar fascist who cannot keep his (typing) mouth shut, and for that I apologize. But could we just try a little harder. Please don't take this personally, Charles, it's just that this post's title was misspelled, and replied to, so many times with nobody apparently noticing, that I had to say something. Many of the modernized nations of the world have better education systems than the United States, and it shows.
I feel better now.
Hateful responses will be respectfully noted.

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Jeremy J. Anderson
No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful. Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful.

Randall_Turner May 19, 2004 06:00 PM

I left the title the way it was as I DID NOT POST IT. And in my opinion was of no concern to the content of the post.. If you want to be a spelling perfectionist teach English class. Sorry if I came off rudely but your post came off quite rudely imo and totally uncalled for.
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Randall L Turner Jr.
www.aircapitalconstrictors.com
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snakepimp May 19, 2004 06:09 PM

If you choose to take it personally, despite my disclaimers, then it must mean you knew the correct spelling. I have a problem with tact, it's true. Maybe I'm just testy because I am sick, or maybe I have spent too much time on
http://www.maddox.xmission.com lately.
Another tactless spelling fascist

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Jeremy J. Anderson
No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful. Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful.

christopher_o May 19, 2004 06:13 PM
christopher_o May 19, 2004 06:14 PM
snakepimp May 19, 2004 06:18 PM

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Chris Olson Reptiles

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Jeremy J. Anderson
No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful. Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful.

Hoppy May 19, 2004 07:42 PM

No offense meant to be giving to you hear, but PLEASE!!! What’s next? Is Snoop Dog going to teach us math? Maybe a civics lesson by Eminem? How about an etiquette class by a 240lb rabbit “Hoppy” get it LOL. What I don’t understand is what complex would you be suffering from that would cause you to be so disrespectful of another person who came here asking for help? Inferiority, feeling of low self worth, or are you just a giant butthead? Ok maybe a little offense was meant to be giving, but I assure you that I am typing with a smile see…..

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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

snakepimp May 19, 2004 09:38 PM

In my defense, I must say that I know the difference between correct spelling and creative license. One cannot put space in URLs after all, and therefore it is natural that it should become a "coined term". I must be vigilant now, in order to avoid making more of an ass of myself.
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Jeremy J. Anderson
No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful. Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful.

buffysmom May 19, 2004 11:23 PM

He does have a point. Some posts are so riddled with errors that it takes more effort to read them than is reasonable. It's not asking too much for us to re-read our paragraphs prior to hitting "post".

That said. Don't lie to her about it. If there is a qualified herp vet in your area, take the snake to them & see what they say. If not, putting it down may be best. Just help her come to that conclusion on her own & support her throughout the difficult process.
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steve.AC May 20, 2004 01:47 AM

I am Brtish and but haven't lived in the UK for many years and I have noticed that us English from England are some of the worst spellers of all time, the people in in Finland and other foreigners who have English as their second language are very good spellers. I saw this in the US and the UK, it doesn't bother me at all but I generally see that non natives spell better than us. The thing is that in Englnd and the USA we are always changing words, making new ones and changing the meaning of them, and it seems that this is not a worry so lets not worry too much about the spelling either, thats what I think. it,s just words and English won't go away anyway, we are not high on the SECOND language list and never will be.

take care

steve

snakeman2004 May 20, 2004 11:52 AM

I noticed immediately that the post was misspelled. However, since I, like most of the rest of these people, do not give a damn, I let it go. Because a post is misspelled and others replied to it, does not mean that no one noticed it. It simply means that some of us are more concerned with helping the original poster than complaining about his/her grammar. This is, after all, a forum about reptiles, not a speeling bee.

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