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do u think a bt is good for me???

bdking15 May 19, 2004 02:32 PM

im 14 male 54ish like 145 pounds work out evry day .
im jw bc i found one i lie in d n j reptiles n i just fell in love wit it do u think this is a good i dea

ps thanks shav srry if i spelt it wrong u helped a lot but i wouls need like a 8 by 5 by like 3 for a full grown bt???
thanks

Replies (10)

monitorman315 May 19, 2004 09:35 PM

I look at it like this... If you had your drivers license and went to a dealership and saw a car that you just had to have and had the money to buy it, what would you do? Dont answer that. My question to you is do you have your drivers license? If not, study hard then take the test.

Hope this helps you find your answer.

Jaye

SHvar May 19, 2004 11:24 PM

Not one at ?x?x?ft you need a cage set up to get it started as a small animal, then as it groes you will need progressively larger, deeper, wider cages because they have the potential of 5 ft at a year old. As I said before Im working on space to build a 10x6x5ft cage for Sobek alone. This is an animal that can eat alot of food (expensive), needs alot of space (expensive), and a dedicated caretaker with a direction in life with the capability to care for it long term even if several expensive vet visits are required (example; depends on the vet if your monitor is a female that gets bound up with eggs it could cost $280-800 for the initial visit, surgery, medication, and return trip after healing alone, fortunately I saw the lower end with a very experienced herp vet that had 2 other vets, and multiple assistants helping). Will you be in college in a few years? Will you join the military? etc etc etc, what I mean is are you ready, or is this something that can wait until you have direction in life? Its your decision, actually your parents because they are your caretakers and responsible for you and your actions, besides any negative accidents involving the public in danger look bad on the herp community, think responsibly and consider ackies truthfully, all of the attitude and a tiny fraction of all other requirements. Good luck and talk it over with your parents.

TK2 May 19, 2004 11:56 PM

>>im 14 male 54ish like 145 pounds work out evry day .
>>im jw bc i found one i lie in d n j reptiles n i just fell in love wit it do u think this is a good i dea
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>>ps thanks shav srry if i spelt it wrong u helped a lot but i wouls need like a 8 by 5 by like 3 for a full grown bt???
>>thanks

vcreations May 20, 2004 03:25 AM

thanks.

absolutely not. you, at this point unless you plan on moving directly out of your parents house and into a long term situation have no business owning a monitor that lives for 25 years (or should). that is not fair to the monitor.

think about it, andrew

crocdoc2 May 20, 2004 06:03 AM

You have just bought a black roughneck a short while ago and it is far from being an adult, yet you are already looking into buying another, larger species of monitor. At this stage it remains to be seen if you'll be able to house your roughneck properly once it grows (and they can get pretty big, you've seen pics of Dragoon's male). Are you bored with it already?

If my memory serves me, even getting the black roughneck was a bit of a stretch because your parents wouldn't let you get anything that eats mice.

Concentrate on your black roughneck, give it the best home and care you can provide. At your age you shouldn't be thinking about accumulating a large collection. Chances are in a year or two you'll have nothing but girls and cars on your brain and the monitor will be neglected to death. If I am wrong and you are seriously into reptiles, wait awhile until you can sex your roughneck and get it a mate. That'll keep you busy and the poor thing's life will not be wasted.

bdking15 May 20, 2004 04:15 PM

i have a 30 tank for when i first get the bt if i do then i have a 50 then i have l;ike a 6 by 3 by 3 then in a few yrs when it starts to get big a like 8 by 5 by 4. i have no problem gett it fed. and my mom like the one we found and it will probly be hers when i go to college (she loves monitors n bd but she hates snakes so she has no problem with them. im stilll thinking about it tho just a few more questions will probly deside it....

are they a nice if u handle them a lot as babys i heard they are like dog tame?

also im probly not going away for college so i could take czare of them

and wat its the diff between a white n black bc i cant find like any info on black only white

but thanks for evryone help but i think i might wait a while before i get one so i can find info on them n get books and get ppl advice first

crocdoc2 May 20, 2004 09:22 PM

Is your keyboard missing a few letters or are you trying to impress us with your geekspeak? You'll get better responses if you use a full word and now and then.

Don't get a blackthroat. It will not take it a few years to get big, it will take a year, maybe two. At full size it will need more than the enclosure you are planning for it. You still have a roughneck that hasn't yet reached adult size and it remains to be seen whether or not you'll be able to house and feed it as an adult, yet already you're looking at your next monitor. Have you read any of these responses to your post at all?

I know you said you'll wait until you've done some research before you buy one. I say wait until you've moved out of home and have more space.

SHvar May 21, 2004 10:53 AM

A few hundred dollars in food the first year alone, several hundred to several thousand in cages the first year alone, potential for vet visits for it and doctor visits for you that are a few hundred to a few thousand. Unless you have a full time job or own a sucessful company you wont be able to properly care for large monitors let alone medium sized.

"are they a nice if u handle them a lot as babys i heard they are like dog tame?"

Depends on the individual, you could also lose body parts.

"also im probly not going away for college so i could take czare of them"

Will you be making enough to care for it and yourself?

"and wat its the diff between a white n black bc i cant find like any info on black only white"

The V.Albigularis is a "whitethroat", the ionidesi was combined with albigularis, now the true BT is a microstictus which are very rare in captivity. So the BTs we have except a few rare cases are really WTs according to those who write the books. In the pet industry BTs are still BTs to make them easier to identify.

Oh by the way my fiancee couldnt properly care for my large monitors because they are too strong for her, and I somehow dont think your mom will care for a monitor after you leave.

-ryan- May 23, 2004 11:17 AM

Don't do it! Just don't. I have a bearded dragon and a mali uromastyx, and I would never think of getting a monitor at my age (turning 16 soon). I'm planning on waiting until I'm about 40 before really considering getting anything that needs that much space, time, and money. Right now the bearded dragon and the uromastyx are all I need and want for that matter. I don't know where I'm going to college in two years, and my dad will happily take care of the two lizards I have if I have to go away (I don't think I will though). Even after that, I'm not sure what kind of career choices I'm going to make. In a couple of years I'm aiming to take my drumming to a semi-proffessional level (actually getting paid and playing out several times a week hopefully...mostly planning on playing in some party/wedding bands instead of the wannabe rockstar bands I'm in now), along with a full time day job when I get out of college. The point is, I'm not sure where drumming is going to take me. I'm either going to be a music teacher which will allow me to take care of my reptiles, or maybe my drumming career might take off which would be great, except I wouldn't be able to take care of reptiles. The point is at this point neither of us know where we are going to go in life. In hindsight, maybe I shouldn't have gotten the reptiles I have in the first place, but I love them and I'll make sure that no matter what happens, they get the care they deserve.

Just please think it over A LOT and really consider what everyone here has said. As others have said, don't you already have a monitor to take care of? Focus on what you have and wait a while before you figure out what you're going to do.

LizardMom May 24, 2004 10:21 PM

Well said, Ryan. You show an amazing level of maturity for one so young. (That's not to be taken as a cut; I'm 54....EVERYONE is young!) With the insight you show, you'll do fine in everything you attempt. I wish you all the best.

Leslie

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