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Milk snake not eating

grammostola1953 May 23, 2004 09:48 PM

I have a 2 1/2 yr. old male, approx. 4 1/2 ft. Ate last 4/24, shed 5/05, has refused/ignored all food. I have tried several changes, thawing in hot tap water, filtered & bottled water. Also, since this latest shed, he's trying to escape his tank, several times a day, never did this before. He's in a 50 gal. reptile tank with re-enforced & weighted lid. I'm hoping this is some kind of puberty thing. Can anyone help?

Thank you...

Replies (8)

guero May 23, 2004 11:29 PM

What kind of milk is it? Do you have a hide box of some sort? What is the temp like? Try a prekilled mouse, if it doesn't eat it, freeze it. Also, milks like to eat at night. Mine seem to do better when I feed at night. I really don't like to give them live food, but I do have a particular snake that will only eat a live one. I've known some milks to eat live but smaller food items than you would think. Example, I have a Mexican milk, approx. 3 feet, and it feeds on large live fuzzies only. Anything bigger and it won't touch it. The snake itself should be fine if it's healthy, for quite awhile (3-4 months). It'll eat when he's hungary unless there is a medical problem with him. I will say, that right after a shed, they will be very active, especially if they are ready to breed.

grammostola1953 May 24, 2004 07:00 AM

He's Honduran, CB, been eating frozen all his life. He has a large 1/2 log hidey. Temp is 75-80 degrees. I have tried offering warm, thawed food at all times of day or night, many times when he is actively trying to raise the lid.
I am relieved to hear that he can go some time w/o food. He had such a good consistent appetite, that the sudden halt had me frantic.
Should I try to find a mate? Or continue to try feeding, periodially?
Thank you so much for your input.

guero May 24, 2004 03:49 PM

Just try feeding periodically. Hondurans are usually not bad about doing that, but I also have a 4 year old male that went through a period like that for about 3 months last year. Suddenly started eating, ate but not ravenously, brumated him, and after brumation, has had a great appetite again. Not sure why though.

twh May 24, 2004 04:05 PM

my male (98) honduran just ate last night after his shed,the last time he ate was 4-6-04.he spent many hours pushing his nose against the tub looking for a girl friend.if he's robust and active no need to worry,it's that luv thing.

grammostola1953 May 25, 2004 07:30 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what is brumation? Couldn't find in a dictionary, but found references in some threads. I get the basic but would like a more definitive answer. And again, thanks for your help, I feel much better now.

guero May 26, 2004 10:13 PM

Brumation is like hibernation, except the animal in question doesn't really sleep. It's really just a period of inactivity more than anything else. Hibernation is where an animal actually sleeps and becomes pretty dormant. During a brumation period in herps, you don't give the reptile any food and cool the enclosure to about 50-60 degrees, just make sure they have water. After a period of fasting, you warm the enclosure up and they become very active immediatly. This process is needed for a number of snakes and makes the sperm of the males much more viable.

Birdthethird May 26, 2004 11:41 PM

My three yr. old honduran is doing the same thing. Hasnt eaten since early March. Was eating hopper mice twice a week. I am beginning to get worried . My first attempt at keeping snakes through winter and didnt brumate. Probably got him (male) all screwed up. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks.

guero May 27, 2004 07:06 PM

If you are not breeding, then brumation is not really needed. I had a desert king that I kept for 4 years and never brumated her either until this year. Never had a problem, but kings usually don't either. Brumation is really just to set a cycle more than anything else. Basically using a "natural" cycle like that in nature to stimulate them. As for pets, it's not needed. If your honduran is not eating, try going down a smaller size meal. I usually don't feed live but sometimes large fuzzies that are moving are tempting enough to get them going.

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