Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
Click for ZooMed
Click here to visit Classifieds

Which is the better investment?

jgjulander May 24, 2004 06:58 PM

Het albino or het axanthic? What do you guys think?
Thanks,
Justin J

Replies (33)

Murphinski May 24, 2004 07:09 PM

Try not to think about the money aspect.......and think about what YOU want..........Do you like Albinos better?...or Axanthics better?

Cause in less your heart and soul is not into it.....neither will be a good investment.

BallBoutique May 24, 2004 07:20 PM

"Try not to think about the money aspect.......and think about what YOU want..........Do you like Albinos better?...or Axanthics better?

Cause in less your heart and soul is not into it.....neither will be a good investment."

He was asking about investment not about heart and soul. What he could make more money on his investment.
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

Murphinski May 24, 2004 07:35 PM

And you know as well as I do that this thread gets started on a monthly basis........what's the better investment?

And ALL of these threads are generated with one intention.......which one will make me the most money?

I was simply stating that NO invested morph will "cash" in in less you give it your all......and that means going with the one(s) you want to work with most............No One can make that decision for him.

BallBoutique May 24, 2004 07:43 PM

as an investmant you are wrong for what you said. If he knows what he wouldlike to work with he would have not have placed his post.

Oh yes, axanthic is a better investment.....not as many people have them, unlike the albino. Think of all the dh projects.
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

Murphinski May 24, 2004 07:53 PM

hmm......IF he knew what he wanted to work with.....then why ask? I sure the he!! don't remember asking "Which is the better investment?".......I didn't care.....I wanted what I wanted. Not what the majority ruled on.

As far as Axanthics being the better of the two..well................opinions vary.

BTW......speaking of Dbls.......there's a whole lot more possibilities with an Albino than with an Axanthic.....again..opinions vary!

BallBoutique May 24, 2004 08:21 PM

Do yourself a favor re read this thread.....
"Which is the better investment?"
axanthics are underrated How many snows have been produced?
axanthics have not been in the market place that long. BTW
I like pieds!
hum pied albinos, pied axanthics...yea
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

Murphinski May 24, 2004 08:49 PM

You re-read it!

Cause You seem to be the one missing the point.........well....my point.

My point being that they're both good choices......but HE has to make that decision.......it's should not be a majority rule.

You don't have to answer this on a public forum......just think about it.......but how come you don't own a Genetic Stripe (or hets)? The dh possibilities are ENDLESS!!!!!!!! Once you get done thinking about my question....then you will know where I'm coming from.

BallBoutique May 24, 2004 09:06 PM

Why should I not answer your question about stripes or het stripes? I don't like them! Simple? Perhaps I might change my mind. I invested in a spider. But you already knew that. LOL
What double hets are you working with?
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

Murphinski May 24, 2004 09:20 PM

What double hets are you working with?

(A)....none....you know this already.....(B).....what the he!! does that question have to do with this whole thread?

You know what.....you're still missing my point, I don't know how else to get it across to you, and now you're getting way off base of this thread.......oh well..I'm done. Rick wins!!!!!!!!! Wooohoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Having fun?????????????

jasballs May 24, 2004 09:37 PM

you go girls I LOVE IT
-----
if i were as ugly as you i'd have to pay alimony too!!

Murphinski May 24, 2004 09:50 PM

Hey.....this is a lover's quarrel........SO STAY OUT OF IT!

jasballs May 24, 2004 09:58 PM

no problem but VPI AXANTHICS RULE I dont know much about ricks new brown axanthics as for albinos they are awesome
-----
if i were as ugly as you i'd have to pay alimony too!!

Luke9815 May 24, 2004 10:00 PM

Can you feel the love tonight
It is where we are
Its enough for this wide eyed wanderer
That we got this far....

And can you feel the love tonight
I was left to rest
Its enough to make kings and bagabons
Beleive the very best
.....

....can you feel it????......

gothpython May 24, 2004 07:46 PM

looking for an investment. well like rick says. there are those dbl hets. so if you have the money go with a het albino male and a het axanthic female or vice versa. you'll be producing both albino and axanthic and when you get to that point in the future, your very own snows. well that's my opinion.
red

BallBoutique May 24, 2004 08:11 PM

axanthics cost more.....yup.
try and purchase a pair of 100% het axanthics for under a $1,000.00.
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

gothpython May 24, 2004 08:20 PM

i know het axanthics are more expensive which is why i stated: "so if you have the money go with a het albino male and a het axanthic female or vice versa". you of course need the money to get started in your investments. i know it's taking me awhile to get started. but like everyone else...i'll get there soon enough.
red

BallBoutique May 24, 2004 08:24 PM

get a pair of het axanthics
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

gothpython May 24, 2004 08:28 PM

beleive me...once i can afford it i will...

BallBoutique May 24, 2004 08:41 PM

get a pair of het albinos 700
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

bigdee May 25, 2004 12:16 AM

het albinos $700 where? i been looking all I see is like $900 where is it that im not looking because someone else said something about hets for like $700 also

bachman May 25, 2004 09:50 AM

If you know the right people, you can get het albino pairs for 600-700 a pair.

Chad

jim_perron May 24, 2004 08:45 PM


-----
Jim Perron
Python Passion Reptiles
pythonpassion@hotmail.com
www.pythonpassionreptiles.com

mariasman May 24, 2004 11:21 PM

I'd go with albino. However, you will find yourself in a bad position once you produce hets or possible hets of any simple recessive morph as an unknown.

If you want to get into albino balls, make sure that you have the prospect of producing AT LEAST some albinos your first production year... that means AT LEAST a het male AND het female.

jgjulander May 25, 2004 09:24 AM

Rest assured, my heart and soul are into herps. I only asked because I have to choose one or the other and they are pretty much even in my mind. I just wasn't sure on the market value as of this year and which morph would hold value longer. I have a pair of het pieds and that is an exciting project, but adding another morph will also be nice.
Thanks again,
Justin J

TomChambers May 25, 2004 09:56 AM

I think most would agree that axanthic snakes look great as babies but most aren't that impressive as adults.

IMO you will have a harder time selling axanthic's if you don't sell them fast when their young. Again just my opinion, but I wouldn't but an axanthic until it was older to see how it turns out, but I'm not into the snow ball project so who knows.

I feel you will have an easier time selling albinos that look virtually as nice as adults, as they did the day they were born.

TomChambers

BallBoutique May 25, 2004 11:37 AM

Funny I sold all my hets and axanthics this year. Getting more in a few months. I think people need vision for what the axanthic will do to another morph. Yes the albino mixes will be great too.
I am trying to get dh pied x albino. Next spider x axanthic ... its endless. Some folks like white chocolate and some dark chocolate. Can't wait to see different morphs. Let's be honest it's all good. SNOW!!!!!!!!
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

TomChambers May 25, 2004 12:44 PM

Thats cool, I never said you couldn't sell them. I said IMO you would have a harder time selling them.
Two reasons why I believe this:
1)albino is a stand alone morph. It looks good by itself. Not many axanthic's have this quality IMO.
2)The price of an albino is slightly lower, so more people will be able to afford them.

I'm not saying I'm right and your wrong, this is just my opinion.

I think they both will mix with other morphs equally well so thats a draw.

TomChambers

BallBoutique May 25, 2004 12:54 PM

I agree also. I think the people askng about axanthics are people that have the albino when they purchase an axanthic. But if a person does not have an albino then yes they will go towards the albino. I think the albino looks nice by itself. But I do like the look of the axanthics and if I was buying a ball morph for the first time at this point of entry it would be the albino.
BTW my first ball morph 2.2 het pieds.
The king of morph...IMHO
-----
RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

TomChambers May 25, 2004 01:10 PM

yes, the piebald stands high on my list as well. A must have for every collection.
I still can't afford one yet, but someday....

TomChambers

bachman May 26, 2004 12:33 AM

No doubt. A good friend of mine is a good friend of Pete Kahls, and before they were proven, Pete cut an egg & seen a Pied in it (about a week early). Just think about it; he proved the two biggest morphs in the game.Pieds & albino Boas.

Luck is with some people,
Chad

bachman May 26, 2004 12:36 AM

For looks the Pied's are the best IMO, but the Spinner Balls would come in a close second.

Chad

lilroach56 May 25, 2004 04:57 PM

s
-----
0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

My image Gallery

Murphinski May 25, 2004 09:25 PM

"I only asked because I have to choose one or the other and they are pretty much even in my mind. I just wasn't sure on the market value as of this year and which morph would hold value longer."

Thank you Justin for proving my point!

Good luck with your decision!

Site Tools