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I thank you for the lecture, I enjoyed it alot. Now I don't know what I'm going to write in this post, but really, it doesn't matter. If you read what I've written thus far, and what's to come, you'll see that I CAN infact write properly, and, believe it or not, I can speak just as well. Now if you're wonerdering why I typed as I did in my previous post, it was simply because I wasn't worrying about my spelling, nor my grammer. Why should I worry about it if I'm not being marked or graded on it? I guess you answered my question; People judge me on the way I type, as you did. Now you tell me, which do you think is worse, someone who types horribly, but only because he isn't worried about his errors, or someone who judges a person on how he write/speaks? You tell me.

That 100% of your "appearance" on any Internet forum is based on how you present yourself via your typing. I'm a high school teacher and I tend to let a lot of typos go (especially the ones I make myself, or can see being made)... but if a person writes in a grammatically bad manner, it is very hard to give them the credit of a keen intellect when their words sound like they are a hick from backwoods Tennessee (my best friend in college fit that definition as to origin, not as to appearance).

Even though the important message might be all you want to get across, it is important to cultivate an online persona that can be respected. Now, I have NO IDEA what message you are referring to, or what Hoppy might have said to elicit this response from you, though I will look once I've said what I'm saying now, but while I haven't noticed Hoppy on here for a LONG time, I have noticed that since he's been around he's always been polite and helpful, and certainly he has some snakes I would love to have!

Anyway, I'm done rambling on. Just remember it's a flat little box with lines on it. It can't hurt you or make you made, you have to do all the emotion yourself. Don't let the Internet beat you up, or allow it to make you beat yourself up.

AND... one of my favorite pictures, you've all seen before... just to keep it ontopic!

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~Sasheena

that I might have responded with "information" only to your post earlier (that I have now read), but would have privately shared Hoppy's feelings on the matter. I know, I'm a high school teacher who just "MISSES THE POINT" when it comes to the cultural imperatives that require young people to dress, speak, and act like utter blithering idiots.

I'm soon to be the mother to a freshman in high school (instant parenthood, oh what fun) so perhaps I will gain a unique insight into the mindset that being a high school teacher alone has not allowed me.

I am glad Hoppy had the courage to air his feelings on the matter, though I do not really believe it was an attack on YOU so much as the straw that broke the camel's back... just had to express himself strongly on an issue he felt strongly about.

I, too, find that the okeetee aztecs are absolutely STUNNING.... and if I had the wherewhithal, and the space, I would get one, or some of those as well. But alas, My space is used up, and will be even more limited once I have my babies start to hatch... and as such, I guess I have to post another on topic picture:

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~Sasheena

I just love ghosts...You can send me those any time! LOLOLOLOL!!

Actually one of those two is supposed to be an Anery, and I'm starting to lose track which is which! To me they look darn near identical. They were less identical when they were younger. They are clutch mates. Next year if they are big enough I'll be breeding them and should possibly get a few ghosts, depending on who I pair them up with.
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~Sasheena

but if a person writes in a grammatically bad manner, it is very hard to give them the credit of a keen intellect when their words sound like they are a hick from backwoods Tennessee (my best friend in college fit that definition as to origin, not as to appearance).
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I happen to be from Tennessee thank you very much.
Jimmy

>>I happen to be from Tennessee thank you very much.
>>Jimmy

My best friend from college was from Tennessee... so I picked on that state like I picked on her. No offense intended... but if you want to pick fun at a "california girl" go right ahead.

Jimmy, how are the babies? More eggs cookin?
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~Sasheena

>>>>I happen to be from Tennessee thank you very much.
>>>>Jimmy
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>>My best friend from college was from Tennessee... so I picked on that state like I picked on her. No offense intended... but if you want to pick fun at a "california girl" go right ahead.
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>>Jimmy, how are the babies? More eggs cookin?
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>>~Sasheena

Hey Sasheena,
Well, four of the ten hatchlings are eating on their own.
Two of the remaining six have eaten on their own but have refused food the last two times and the other four have not eaten on their own yet.
I have tried scenting live and f/t. I have tried enticing them. I have tried braining, decapitation, just about everything.
I am hoping to get some time to look for some skinks and scenting with them, or even better catching a few small enough to see if they will take them and then work from there.
I have three rescues from Florida that have never eaten on their own. They were force fed for a couple of months before I got them and they have been here about five or six weeks now.
I have been force feeding the hatchlings pinkie heads and the three non-feeder rescues have been getting the pinkie bodies.
They keep the food down and are growing so it will just be a matter of time before they start eating.
I had two non feeders a couple of years ago and waited too long to start force feeding them and they ended up dying.
I figured this time I would be better off getting food in them and taking as long as needed to get them eating.
My creamsicle laid twenty eggs, one died a few days later but the other nineteen are looking good.
My Reverse Okeetee/cream laid nine eggs. All nine are looking good.
So, 28 eggs incubating. The first 19 should hatch in about 10 to 14 days and the other 9 should be about 14 days later.
The Tennessee Hick....LOL

I didn't see your post yet, or Hoppy's reply. I just saw this and I have something to say before I go any further.

Say you have a house up in the hills and just on the other side of a big bay window is a view to die for! You sit back in your EZboy recliner, with a beer in one hand, to look at all the beatiful aspects of nature; bedazzling mountains, vegetation, wildlife and a stream, all before your eyes. But, just as you sit down to get comfy, you notice something; Your kids came by earlier and left fingerprints, mud splatters and more all over the glass! So, even though what's on the other side of that window is spectacular, what do you see??

When people write and do not take the time to make their thoughs clear, correct their spelling, etc., it spoils the presentation. It doesn't matter if they have something mindblowing to say or not...if one writes like crap, what is being offered is it's no better than a meal on a garbage can lid, or meeting the girl of your dreams only to find that she hadn't taken a bath in two months! You see, it's hard to see through the "nonsense" to get to what is really important unless you get the dirt of the window!

So, please...get the dirt of the window! LOL!

I read a lot of posts and receive quite a large volume of email, so I am used to reading (and writing) A LOT, lol! I would normally not ever consider it my place to correct an adult (I have to assume we are mostly adults here) about their English, unless they ask.

But since you brought the subject up, I have to admit that when I read posts or emails with numerous mistakes (sometimes requiring reading of the message more than once just to understand the content), I tend to feel that either:

1. The writer doesn't know the correct way to write.

2. The writer feels that my time is not important enough to bother to use a spell check or to proof it again before sending, instead preferring me to read it through a couple of times in order to figure out the meaning.

This may not be the intent at all, but it is just my personal feeling. There are probably others who have the same feelings, so it may be worthwhile to look at it from other perspectives, especially if you are asking for help. I would not let poor English stop me from trying to help somebody in need, but I have received some emails that were so difficult to read that I put them on the "backburner" for awhile until my other work was finished.

I am not saying that anyone here writes that badly, and of course I know that we all make some mistakes. And I am not attacking anybody's writing style, just stating my own feelings on the power of good communication.

My father taught me that a man is only as good as his word. I have tried to pass that sentiment on to my own children.

However, I also have to ask them from time to time, "If that (the above) is true, and yet people cannot even understand your word when you offer it ... where does THAT leave you, exactly?"

I have no hard feelings or judgmental attitudes toward those who convey their ideas without regard to simple issues of spelling and grammar. Even so, I do draw a subtle distinction in my own mind between those who make common mistakes and those who butcher the language, for whatever reason. Those impressions may never cause me to intereact with a person in any way that is different, but when it comes time for me to buy or sell animals, and I am looking to interact with those upon whom I can count for reliability, maturity, and the ability to effectively communicate, the subtle distinctions are those issues that often cause me to go one way or another.
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

I don't know...I tend not to judge on typing....since I use (...) to get away from grammar LOL..(unless I'm typing something very important)....Mostly because I'm horrible at it....Some of how people talk/type has alot to do w/ where they are brought up...not much you can do about that.....I'm from west (by god) virginia hehe....and I tend to be quite on the "hicky" side at times.....My father is also this way.....And let me tell you he is one of the smartest men when it comes to math skills......Different people are good at different things....I'm an excellent mommy LOL
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KRISTI Mommy 2 Autumn Rose (daughter) 2 1/2 yrs
Reign Michael(son) 6 months
Duncan (Budgie) Passed away 5/11/2004...Love you duncan
Asia (Juvie Leopard Gecko)
Russia ( Baby Albino Cornsnake)
OH, And Ron the geckos #1 FAN!!! (owned by BlizzardGecko)

>>It's not the spelling, occasional bad grammar or poor sentence structure that's the problem. (like mine)
It's when these things are done intentionally, for whatever reason.
I just don't understand the desire to make it more difficult to read your posts.
It's not sloppiness or an accident, it's just rude.
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Remember, My posts are MY opinion only!
Jimmy (draybar)

Ghettonese has no place anywhere....Paul

King of bad sentence structure and misspells

Are you an idiot that doesn't know how to spell or speak English properly? It's ok, call it "ebonics." Drunk off your ass and ploy into an innocent person, killing them? Call yourself a Rams' linebacker and don't do a day in prison. Grow up in the ghetto and end up in prison? Not your fault, you are a product of a society that won't help you get ahead. Heaven forbid you do something for yourself, or, I know it's a tough concept to grasp, take responsibility for your actions.

I'm a cop, but get this, I grew up in a rough neighborhood, got a bachelors and masters degree despite where I come from, landed my dream job and am well on my way to become chief of police somewhere. (that's my goal) I hear all kinds of rediculous excuses like "my speedometer is broke" or "I didn't know the car was stolen." Dude, take control of your life and stop tryin' to be a victim. Grow up!

just my two cents.
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1.0 Hypo Okeetee - Wesley (Princess Bride)
0.1 Ghost - Sydney (Scream)
2.0 Striped Amel - Jay and Aiden (Kevin Smith movies)
1.0 Snow - Silent Bob (Kevin Smith movies)
0.1 Anery - Columbia (Rocky Horror)
1.0 Creamcicle - Brandon (Mallrats)
0.1 Zig Zag Anery - Pepper (didn't name her)
0.1 Normal - Bindy (Croc. Hunter)
0.1 Motley - Craven (Underworld)

I tend to agree (Don't EVEN get me started on OJ!) but why not state things in a less bitter manner? LOL! I'm an English major and, while I disagree with Ebonics as a whole, I can't help but clearly see that there definitely is some dialectual "thing" going on there. Anyway, I digress...are you sure you landed your dream job?

Yeah, I was kinda jaded at the time, but I just got off work and I had to work a case that someone died. Sometimes I'm a bit jaded, but I can promise you that I'd rather have no other job.
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1.0 Hypo Okeetee - Wesley (Princess Bride)
0.1 Ghost - Sydney (Scream)
2.0 Striped Amel - Jay and Aiden (Kevin Smith movies)
1.0 Snow - Silent Bob (Kevin Smith movies)
0.1 Anery - Columbia (Rocky Horror)
1.0 Creamcicle - Brandon (Mallrats)
0.1 Zig Zag Anery - Pepper (didn't name her)
0.1 Normal - Bindy (Croc. Hunter)
0.1 Motley - Craven (Underworld)

For those of you who didn't get the reference, that was from a scene in the movie Airplane where two black guys on the plane speak so "ghetto' that it sounds like another language and they need a translator to be understood by the stewardess. Anyway, if you notice his name, he goes by Wu Tang which is a rap group. The way he typed his post was not likely due to a lack of effort but more likely an added effort. He just had the wrong idea of his audience. If most here were teenagers instead of adults no one would have blinked. To some of his peers he would have sounded cool. Most here are just too old to get it, no offense. I'm no spring chicken(pushing 40 soon), I just have a taste for rap music. It sounded silly to me as well but I understood where he was coming from. Keep it coming Wu Tang and just tell them all to fashizzle dizzle

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Joe,
That was a well written and expressive thought that came out very well and with merit. But I would like to just make a point or two about it. First of all, I don’t judge you “az da boyz n da hood” would say, “Only God can Judge you.” and I am far from the all mighty, I’m simply a grumpy old herper who likes to raise snakes and take trips. What I did not do was lecture you on grammar or your typing skills, many times (including the post I made) I make typing and spelling errors. What I was trying to convey to you was the generational difference in the Ebonics type wording that you were using to post your questions. I will normally over look spelling and typo errors, but when you type in a manner that is not only difficult to read and comprehend, but also offensive to most people in my age group, I will let you know that it would be easier to answer you questions in English. I don’t like being called “dawg” (a dog is covered in fur and can lick it’s genitals, I have neither the hair nor the flexibility) and I would never consider referring to my wife as “Ho” (and not only because she is not Chinese, that joke may escape some of you LOL). Your posting was not a collection of simple errors but a purposeful thought and chosen style of speech or writing, so please do not try and make it sound as if I was picking on a poor boy with a reading disability.
I purposely chose the true Bill Cosby story to express to you that it is not a racial issue but a generational one. I am always willing to answer questions for any one who may need help, assuming that I am reading the forum at that particular time or if you ever feel the need to e-mail me directly, which is why I post my e-mail address at the end of each post. But I can’t help but wish that you would write your questions in proper English instead of slang, it is simply irritating to me.
I don’t judge you based on your typing abilities, heck I don’t even know you but first impressions only come once and yours was in Ebonics. Sorry if I offended you.
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

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