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I am still waiting on nearly everything.I have just recently had Jungle and Ringed python eggs,and all of the different Boas that I breed are still gestating.Tonight I went into the snake room and my Albino Burms are still breeding. I have never seen Burms breed this late.Strange year.

Tim,
. It is a good year. We have never had so many PICs of new litters here on this forum. My Rainbow Boas all bred a little late this year and I am still waiting on babies. A Jungle Carpet bred by a Diamond laid a clutch yeasterday. If a female Burm does not become gravid the males will keep courting for a long time. A friend has two clutches of Burm eggs in the incubator and the male was just recently courting a new third female.
Good luck,
Jeff

>>I am still waiting on nearly everything.I have just recently had Jungle and Ringed python eggs,and all of the different Boas that I breed are still gestating.Tonight I went into the snake room and my Albino Burms are still breeding. I have never seen Burms breed this late.Strange year.

With everyone producing so many animals this seaon do you guys think this is going to be more then the market can take. Are we flooding the market with boas and going to cause a huge drop in the price accross the board. Will we get to, in a few years, the point where most boas are in the $100.00 range regardless of Morph. The Corn Snake market is just crushed with all kinds of breeders and has cause most of the snakes to be under $50.00 and I personally believe the corn snake to be the best pet snake ever!!!!
Just wondering aloud
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

the cornsnake is a great snake. I would expect that with all of this success in the boa market prices may drop a bit. But probably not a tremendous amount. Take albinos for example, about a year ago you could find them everywhere for around $750 to $850. Now it is hard to find them for much less than $1000. This, I believe, is due to everyone practicing selective breeding and creating prettier albinos. I think that no matter what morph we are talking about, they can be refined and made better promoting higher prices. It creates a sort of equillibrium based on great looks and strong genetics. One more point, I dont think we have scratched the surface to the possibilities and endless combinations that can be created using all of the different morphs. I think that we are in store for a tremendous amount of new looks, especially given the morphs of the C.A. boas. Such as motley C.A., hypo, anery II, and the leopard and especially the T . I am extremely excited about the future of boas. And who cares if the prices fall a little bit, that will just allow more people purchase these animals and continue to strengthen the bloodlines. Provided they arent out to try to make a quick buck and line breed everything out. Alright enough of my rambling. I hope everyone has a great holiday weekend and to all of those producing those knockout litters keep it up, I love the pics. It keeps me glued to the computer, so much so that my wife may be ready to cancel my cable internet. LOL

THanks
Bob

Alot of the litters are unusual and I expect many animals will be held back. If this kind of production occurrs year after year then prices might really fall but we are talking about boas and next year we may not see nearly as many litters being produced. I hope people don't rush to drop prices. Several years ago the albinos were 3K a piece and then one year of bigger production resulted in the price being dropped to an artificially low price of 1K. Production has not been at that level since and prices have been creeping back up steadily since then. In addition many people are using their morphs to make double or triple hets so less of the actual morphs are being produced. In addition we have seen the production of new morphs from exisitng morphs that result in animals actually becoming more expensive as in the Motleys and the purple patternless boa. If the hypo snow makes a better snow I expect the value of ghosts to go back up etc. Finally there are many combinations that haven't even been produced yet so it should be a while before prices really drop.
Bill Kirby

I am amazed that the market is as strong as it is.One of my buddies and I used to discuss the inevitability of the market reaching the saturation point.He got out of it several years ago,thinking the end was near and ironically it has become stronger each year.The internet is an amazing thing.