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WC Emeralds - Mortality Rates

vegasbilly May 29, 2004 11:59 PM

I know this is probably a loaded question/topic, but I'm curious as to the risk/reward of aquiring wc Emmies. I have alot of experience dealing w/wc Asian Elaphe and am aware of their particular heartaches.

I'm also aware of the variables regarding the whole importation fiasco (dehydration, renal failure, etc.) I guess my question is if a "reputable" dealer lists animals that have been in the US for 4 mos. or so (and can be verified) does this add any chances of successful acclimitization? Can wc Emmies start out strong then crash overnight as do other imported species?

Just how hardy are wc Emmies once treated for parasites, acclimated, etc. Does a "knowledgeable" herper have a fighting chance?

Bill

Replies (2)

CraigC May 30, 2004 08:13 AM

Hey Bill,
The risk is always there, even with reputable dealers. I have purchased emeralds from folks that advertise regularly and that I see from time to time and have lost them. I would still buy from them and have. Even someone that has a keen eye for picking out good animals from shipments can't be right every time.

Every wc emerald we purchased was a great eater, however little signs like undigested bones spoke of problems to come. Eventually the puking started. Probiotics didn't help at this stage nor benebac and even with vet care we still lost them. Most lasted up to 18 months with no puking problems for 8 to 12 months. So out of 13 wc's we got 3 healthy, thriving emeralds of which 1 female gave us babies in August of last year. The ones for which we had necropsies done, showed the renal failure that you mentioned. I have decided that I won't consider a wc emerald LTC for 2 years with no problems. I have never had a problem with wc basins but know folks that have. Personally, new blood for breeding warrants the risk, but it is sad when some one buys a wc as a first emerald and looses it. This puts a bad light on the species as a whole and is probably the main reason for the myths about how "delicate" a species they are to keep and in some ways is responsible for the reputation of being nasty as sick emeralds can be quite grumpy.

If you decide to purchase one of those 4 month captives, just keep in mind what you already know about the risks involved and don't necessarily consider the seller a "bad guy" if you loose the animal.
CraigC

treeboas.com Jun 03, 2004 01:27 PM

Like Craig said, WC 'northern' emeralds are a risk. It doesn't really matter if a dealer is reputable or not, because even the most honest dealer can't predict what sort of bacterial/viral nasties might be hiding just under the surface of even the healthiest 'looking' emerald. Stress from capture and multiple shippings are often to much for these animals and their immune function to handle. If you must buy WC emeralds you should at least ask for a 30 day extended guarantee. This may not be long enough to rule out every problem that can occur, but it will at least give you a chance to feed them twice to make sure they don't puke. If a dealer is not willing to provide this (most won't) then there must be a reason. Just my $.02

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