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I am looking to get a small group of yellow ackies. I have located a couple of good sources and they are both offering two types. One that is the "normal" yellow ackie, and a yellow ackie that grows slightly larger and has a bit more of a contrasting pattern known as the "western" form. Any opinions or advice on the pros and cons of these two types would be greatly appreciated. Also, any chance of the larger, more contrasting animals being hybrid yellow/reds? Thanks, Derek

I have yet to see proof of a red yellow hybrid.
They are different species, and can easily be told apart. There are so many yellows that are dull reddish brown sold as reds, but thats to get $300 a piece for them not $90-150 each as a yellow. The red has larger tail spines, has a pattern on the neck and head, and has black spots inside of the larger light spots on the body. Yellows are V.Brachyurus (thats misspelled I think), and reds are V. Acanthurus. Every time a post on hybrid ackies appears you see "hybrid red/yellows" appear on the classifieds, but they are yellows, after all theres a sucker born every minute, just like CB, LTC, etc etc.

Thanks for the info. -Derek

First, Reds and yellows, are not different species, they are different subspecies. True Reds are, V.a.acanthurus, and True Yellows are, V.a.bracyhurus.

Also, there are many many naturally occuring types of this group, that are neither of the above two.

Also, there are indeed, intergrades between Reds and Yellows, I have two myself. Thanks FR

Its claimed by "So-and so exotic reptiles online" I dont believe of any crosses, especially when I see a yellow for sale as a red, and its that obvious, especially when I saw the same pic in another add a month ago. As always you need to get them from a reputable breeder, not Joe-anyname reptiles. I simply brought up that noone ever can produce proof, but I know you can. Yes they are different subspecies, in a bit of a hurry and typed to quick before work. I know how to tell them apart, but so many cant and go by what the adds claim, its a shame that so many are so dishonest. May I see pics of your intergrades, I always enjoy seeing your pics of animals.

i get the feeling that while some may be dishonest, most simply cannot tell the difference. Also, many new people are from the Colubrid snake area, and they have so many different color phases of the same snake, they think everything is like that. FR

I see alot of high this and that, whatever phaize savannah/nile, and so many others for sale all of the time. Just like the guy who changed his name he posts under including his adds, that claimed the pics of your house and cages are his house and cages in another state on the other end of the country, although the desert shows in the background of the pics, and he lives in the south east (not getting specific or pointing the finger on the forum). He emailed the pics to me once claiming this, amazing what the "herp breeding" industry does to some. One of those pics is in a book as "Goannaranch", but he says its his house in the email, where he used to breed his savannah monitors in your outdoor cages before all of the adults died mysteriously. Ill look some time and see if I saved the pics he emailed me, and his claims.

Just want to let you know, I have been producing red x yellow
for three years now. Red male from rare earth, Yellow female from Wesis. The two are keeping in the same cage with no other
cagemate. Once in awhile, I have offspring for sale in classifreds. I usually do not post in this forum, however I am
getting kind of mad by the dishonest comment. Please let me know what can I do to proof. How can I post some pictures here.

Eggs in an incubator, parents copulating, eggs hatching, mom laying eggs etc....Or post a link to the pics. If your gonna claim it then be able to back it up, when FR claims anything he can back it up.

Here are some pics

Here is the mother

Im not pointing the finger at you, but "if the shoe fits then wear it" as FR says.
The younger ackie pic looks like a cross, this one looks like features of both red and yellow. You offered pics so dont feel like I singled you out, but look at many adds that appear thoughout the classifieds, after your pics and post in a few weeks at most adds will pop up for redxyellows from "so-and-so exotic reptiles online", it always happens, its using the forum to make a buck, so many do it to.
Someone will then post pics of their new reds or redxyellows they bought for a few hundred and in reality they are yellows, thats the dishonest crap I refer to. Just like selling import BTs as CB, CH, CBB-Cape WTs, someone always buys them, for in many cases a few hundred, but that import BT sells for $40-150 otherwise. Unless the shoe fits you then relax and dont worry about it.

Eggs

Eggs Popping

One RED X YELLOW BABY that I SOLD 2001

One Sub-adult that I sold a month ago.

Hi,
Sorry, I do not have the actual mating picture or female laying
eggs. But please understand I was not trying to make a documentary film on Discovery channel. I am just a learning hobbyist reptile breeder.
Why does that surprise you when RED cross with YELLOW
when they are both Varanus acanthurus?
Remember definition of species, biology 101?

The pics Ive noticed of redxyellows in the classifieds are all yellows and its obvious. The pics you posted all look like reds, although the tail is not showing on the first one, but theres a reds pattern on the head and neck. Just curious, wheres the yellow father?
Your pics show dark spots in the center of light spots (red), neck and head patterns (red), bright red color (red), enlarged spines on the tails (red). Im not doubting there arent redxyellow crosses out there but as I said all of the so-called crosses Ive seen in adds are obvious yellows with a higher price on them. I didnt point the finger at anyone in particular as misrepresenting the animals, after all thats against forum rules to point out lieing cheating thieves on this site. There were some recent (last month or 3) adds selling yellows as reds, or yellows as redxyellows, that was some of what I referred to, the guys getting $300 for a yellow selling it as a red, not as a $90-150 yellow.
Most times my red cant be identified by color because hes covered in dirt constantly, but his patterns spines and spots still show.
I didnt say they cant cross, they are both V.Acanthurus, although one is Brachyurus. I never said they cannot cross, I simply asked for proof.

No No No, the first picture shown is the Red father of the crosses. The second one is the yellow mother. Last two are offsprings.