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SF Bay Area Report

bayareaherper May 30, 2004 04:25 PM

Had an interesting thing happen last weekend. Met some folks who said they'd just released a getulus, which they'd caught and hand-fed a sceloperus. Evidently, the snake took the lizard right out of the kid's hand and ate it on the spot. They showed me the snake--still under the rock they'd put him under. He was as docile as if he'd been handled every day.

Anyway...

1 neonate zonata. Mount Hamilton. These animals are markedly different from the coastal. More like a triangulum or elapsoides, with yellow/cream instead of white, and very smooth bands, not "jagged" like the coastals. (I really MUST get a camera.) Can someone tell me if these are a separate ssp, or are they an intergrade? If so, what ssp would intergrade on Mt. Hamilton?

2 Coluber constrictor. Re-catches of earlier.

1 L. getulus. Injured some time ago by careless rock lifting (by others, not me), but seems to be healing well.

60000000 Crotalus. One close call, which I relocated.

1 Masticophis lateralis with an attitude.

1 Diadophis punctatus--very coral underside. (I don't know my ssp names on this animal.)

Lizards everywhere--what else is new? Am still finding enormous Elgaria in a place I discovered last year, and Sceloperus you'd take for iguanas at first glance--they're that big. The Eumeces there are also huge. However, I have yet to see a single snake in this spot, a trash heap that's been there for only a couple of years. Is there a connection between exceptionally large lizards and absence of predators? The zonata was less than a half-mile away in fairly contiguous habitat, so I know they're around. Maybe they haven't discovered the as-yet hidden abundance of food items. Yet.

Regards.

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bgerman May 30, 2004 11:04 PM

You're right, the zonata from that area are different. The theory is that they are an intergrade between zonata zonata and zonata multifasciata. The ones that I have seen are really much more like zz. The band counts are much lower than multifasciata. It is interesting when you consider that the Santa Cruz mountain zs are so much different in appearance, but the range is only a few miles away. That's what makes CA so interesting. More work needs to be done on snakes from that range; we aren't even sure how far south they go.

Ben

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