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Sudden death in Senticolis triaspis intermedia (northern green rat snake); experts please help!

necoris Jun 02, 2004 06:03 PM

I had a long-term-captive Senticolis triaspis intermedia (northern green rat snake) for about 2 years. It has never shown any signs of internal parasites, external parasites or other diseases. It has been eating frozen/thawed adult mice and recently switched over to frozen/thawed small rats. She has been kept of aspen bedding. I noticed she stopped defecating before she died. She was lethargic before she died (about 6 weeks). I thought she was lethargic because she was gravid (she had 6 eggs in her). She has been kept at room temperature up until she started mating. Once I observed copulation, I then put her in a heated rack. It was kept at around 90 degrees Fahrenheit on the hot side and room temperature on the other side (which is 78 degrees Fahrenheit). Does anyone know what could have caused this?

Thanks to any advice in advance.

Replies (5)

sullman Jun 02, 2004 09:19 PM

You said she stopped defecating before she died? Maybe she swallowed some of the aspen and was impacted?

necoris Jun 03, 2004 01:59 AM

That is the only conclusion I can come up with. The snake belongs to a really good friend of mine and I know he always keeps his animals spotless. Anyway, he's waiting until the snake freezes so he can do the necropsy but he did see eggs before he decided the necropsy was too messy and decided to wait. The only other thing I can come up with is a parasitic infestation, but what the hell could do that? I think it was compacted, but other than that I have no idea. Thanks for your input.

rearfang Jun 03, 2004 04:05 PM

Another possibility is that the change in food interfered with normal digestion, so the blockage could have been from an undigested rat.

I lost a 37" Black milk this year shortly after changing from adult mice to rat pinks...and that is what caused it.

Frank
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Kestrel Jun 04, 2004 06:16 PM

Could of also had to do with the egg production. A friend of mine lost one of her nicest chondros this season, due to some odd infection of her ovaries/eggs, which killed her. The area surrounding the eggs was found filled with thick pus, they think maybe from a ruptured half formed egg. The death was sudden and for no apparent reason as well. If your friend does a necropsy, he should probably be able to tell if the death was from something like this, or impaction.. Tell him I said sorry for his loss, Senticolis are some of my favorite animals.
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necoris Jun 06, 2004 01:38 PM

Thank you for all your help; I was told it was either a reproductive problem or switching the diet to rats. Thanks for your help.

Take care,
Dustin

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