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My Ackie died

Aka2212 Jun 05, 2004 08:22 AM

Yesterday i purchased 0,0,3 yellow ackies. The hatched only 5 days ago.
Unfortunately one of them suffered a rectal prolapse and had to be put to sleep.

There was nothing to see when i picked them up at sellers house, but when i got home, a little red, bloody lump was sticking out of the cloacha. After consulting a vet who's specialised in reptiles she told me that i either had to get it to surgery right away (At a cost of $700) or put it to sleep. unfortunately i could not come up with that kind of money...

But i have been wondering why this happend?? Is this normal for young hatchlings?? Is it perhaps related to the dtress during transportation? Or has seller just sold me a sick animal??

Thanx
Jakob
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Replies (6)

Gene Jun 05, 2004 10:01 AM

In my oppinion though 5 days old is way, WAY to young to be selling baby monitors. The seller didn't even have time to be sure they were feeding & healthy before selling them.

See, they can live off their yolk for that long, no need to eat. Not to mention there are sometimes weak animals that don't make it and that could be based on anyting from the parents condition, nesting conditions, to incubation conditons and the treatment there after.

I don't pretend to be smart about this stuff as I have not hatched monitors yet but I think I have been around long enough and raised enough to know that selling them at 5 days is just wrong.

Sorry

FR Jun 05, 2004 11:16 AM

I agree with Gene, 5 days is way to young to know if a monitor is going to survive or thrive. They should not be sold unless thriving.

To Thrive= eating passing food and using the food to grow in a normal and efficient manner.

On the otherhand, you picked them out, so its really your fault. You are the buyer and should be aware of what your buying. I guess that should be a painful lesson for you. By the way, we all go thru that. Some learn, some don't.

Also, a simple prolapse is easy to fix and surely does not cost $700, and simple disinfecting and putting back the offending parts and a bandaid does the trick. A good vet knows this. But then if they did that, they would not be able to make payments on their speedboat.

But then, their may have been far more wrong with it then that.

Also, the pic of a baby yellow ackie, looks like a very thin and weak individual. I hope thats not one of the good ones. FR

Aka2212 Jun 05, 2004 11:33 AM

Painful and expensive lesson...

I have been keeping Morelia Viridis for some time and i know how to handle anal prolapse with them, but the vet said that with ackies you couldn't do the same...

All the ackies seller had looked like the one on the pic. But the two others eat and drink from a water dish.

I have only seen adult specimens IRL before. I have been reading quite a lot about ackies but havent read anything about how old they should be before being sold.
Seller told me that they were eating and drinking, and i had no reason to question what he told me.
I have done business with him before without any problems at all..

But i'm sure i have learned my lesson

Uas Jun 05, 2004 03:55 PM

Hej Jakob.

I better do this in english even, so all the others understand.

The same thing happened to my female t. orientalis 3 weeks after egg-depositing.

I also took the animal to Dr. Beth Fledelius.

She operated on the animal, and it survived and is thriving.
She has just layed another clutch, but only 2 eggs, I think because the level of stress has been to high for her.

I am a bit skeptical with what Frank says, because part of the collapsed rectal may have suffered severe injury from being dragged over the bottensubstrate. If sand is used here, it would have caused hundreds of tiny scratches.
If you where to stick it right back up there, you would probaly have caused severe rectal infection, and then the tissue would maybe start dying from the infection, and this would also kill the animal, or maybe the animal would have died long before. Or die from something else.

I think it was a wise choice you made, tjecking with a vet is often the best way to go, but also like Franks says, expensive.

But the price you have said ($700) is also what I payed.

But that was also an adult breeder female, which I hoped would make up for it, by producing good.

But we must also not forget that monitors have a vey good immune system( healthy thriving animals). So when/ if your monitors flesh wound, bites and scratches, it is very likely that they will heal up with no treatment.

regards
Rasmus

Bodhisdad Jun 06, 2004 07:23 AM

aaaaaaa

Aka2212 Jun 06, 2004 11:26 AM

Well maybe...
But there wont be any...
I picked out the animals from my self from a group of 5 individuals. I was told that it could have been stress related and happend during transportation. And if that's the case then it's nobody's fault...

Lesson learned the hard way

Jakob

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