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Being genetically challenged(in more ways than one),I don't exactly understand this.A female Albino just dropped some babies(12 live,6 slugs and 3 fully-formed dead ones). I actually expected dh Sunglows,as the male that bred and courted repeatedly was a Hypo.An Albino male was in for a short time and apparently got her,as the babies are Albino.However,one of the dead was was a normal.Logical explanation is???

>>Logical explanation is???

The genetic square is based on probabilty. There is a LOW probability that anything but an albino would come out with albino X albino,... but its not out of the realm of possibility.

Neither snakes or genetics are computers... they dont HAVE to obey the rules.

Congrats your litter of albinos though! You should be proud!
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It's possible that one of the salmon's little boys made it up river and only fathered the one animal. If the male hypo was not a super hypo, then that little baby had a 50/50 shot of being a dh sunglow. The odds just didn't work out for him. But, at least he's a 100% het albino - not so bad. This is my best guess as to what happened, but it is also possible that it was just a fluke and the albino was the father. Kind of like how the Royalance Motley came about, but opposite, if that makes sense. Instead of getting a super valuable fluke, yours worked the opposite way and gave you a normal.

Hopefully someone else can help a little more.

Matt Crabe

Another possibility, while probably incredibly rare, would have been that the hypo male that bred her was het albino and somehow produced no Sunglows or Hypos, but just had albinos and the normal. Does anyone know if it is possible she retained sperm from both males?

Geez Tim. Can't you do anything right? Just kidding LOL. Congratulations on your litter. Now you can finally replace the Studebaker and put in one of them cement ponds in the back yard.
Regarding your genetics question I'd say it's most probable the hypo got to her as well. Some of those slugs may have been dh sunglows if they had developed. We'll never know I guess but a dozen albinos is a damned nice hit! Good luck with all of your other gravid animals and hatchlings.

Back in 2002 I bred a DH Snow and a DH Sunglow to an Anery female. I figured if the DH Sunglow male did the job I would get DH Ghosts Poss Het Albino, and if the DH Snow did the job I would get Anerys Poss Het Albino. Either male fathering the litter would leave the normals still being Het Anery 50% poss Het Albino.
When she birthed I ended up with 12 Anerys, 13 Normals and 1 DH Ghost 50% Poss Het Albino! LOL So the DH Sunglow male squeezed 1 little one in there. Lucky for me it turned out to be a female and a Poss Triple Het at that. She will be bred by a DH Snow her first time around. J. Stone has had two different males father litters on more then one occasion. I believe if the timing is right, more then one male can father a litter.
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Edited on June 24, 2004 at 18:59:02 by phwyvern.

I have had it commonly happen in corn snakes, but a couple of years ago I had it happen in the Boas, where a Hypo and an Anery Both Fathered babies from the same female Het for Anery. I know this because both Hypos and Anerys came out in the same litter (only one hypo though) So I agree two fathers are possible to one mother.
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