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hi all.
anyone know if its genetic??
the reason beeing i have seen the most outstanding male patterless leo BUT it has a small kink in his tail at the end any ideas(could i breed it?)
only asking
simmo.

I'm not really sure but I do remember seeing a website that had a gecko that had a few tail kinks and they said "he won't be used in any breeding projects due to it". So I would assume it could be genetic. I've also read that tail kinks are due to too much inbreeding. However, that's all I've heard.
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1.2.0 Leopard Geckos
0.1.0 Miniature long-haired dachsund

What exactly do these kinked tails look like? Post a pic if ya can, thanks.

Kinked tails are a genetic deformity like fadetolemons said. It seems that it is appearing alot in Patternlesses.
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My Leo's
1.0.0 Normal
0.1.0 Tremper Albino
My Beardie
0.0.1 Red x Gold

http://www.thegeckospot.com/ourgeckos.html

go there and look for the gecko 'rocky'. I'm not sure if this can be considered a 'kinked tail', if so, it's EXTREMELY kinked. i think most tail kinks would be one of the small knotches that this leo has about 10 of.
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1.2.0 Leopard Geckos
0.1.0 Miniature long-haired dachsund

wow you have all those geckos in your home or shop? thats alot! there are some real cuties in there.

those aren't my geckos, just some random company's. I remembered seeing that one, rocky, when looking to buy a leo a while ago, so when you guys were talking about tail kinks i thought of him and looked for their website. I only have 5 leos, 2 normals, 1 high-yellow reduced pattern, one tangerine albino and one blizzard.
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1.2.0 Leopard Geckos
0.1.0 Miniature long-haired dachsund

ONLY????????????? HAHAHAHAHA will you take a look at mine again and maybe tell me what they are. bear in mind that summer was alot brighter yesterday but she is all pale today almost faded. maybe she is getting ready to shed?

Yes that means that she is about to shed, she'll probably shed either tonight or tommorow, then her colors will be really vibrant. I'm really not sure what yours were, I'm not too good with the different morphs. The first one looked somewhat normal, and I'm not sure about the second, probably a reduced pattern, if that's what they're called, because she doesn't have many spots on her body. It's hard to tell from those pictures, plus i don't really know much about all of the different morphs. And yeah, I got 3 of my leos at one time and the blizzard and tang. albino are 2 babies that my girlfriend is keeping right now, so it's really not that many, there are some people on here who have like 25 geckos lol
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1.2.0 Leopard Geckos
0.1.0 Miniature long-haired dachsund

THANKS FOR the help. 25 geckos...heh... maybe someday..lol

Kinked tails/spines are also one of the most common results of improper incubation temps. The problem is that you can only guess whether it is genetic or not. About 15 years ago I accidentally dug up a clutch of black racer (snake) eggs and did a science project with my son. It was summer so we put them in the garage in a slightly moist container. It was way up in the 90's or hotter most days. Out of I believe 11 or 12 eggs We got 5 normal animals and the rest had mildly to extremely grossly kinked spines. We're absolutely sure by the number of healthy black racers we see around here in South Florida that it was the improper incubation temps. In my personal experience have had good years with near 100% hatch rates and almost 500 healthy babies and bad years with poor hatch rates coinciding with kinks and other deformities. I've personally never had a higher # of deformities in any one line but with so many incredible animals out there to work with, why chance it? Breed only deformity-free animals.