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Hey Helmz I bet you could answer this one for me...

4everherpn Jun 07, 2004 02:40 AM

How long is the gestation period for Storeria dekayi? I have one that is looking mighty gravid. Either that or she is just plain fat! She is a wild caught specimen and I've had her in my posession for about a month now. A week later I put another Dekay's in with her.

I'm guessing on sexes here. I have not probed either snake, but the smaller of the two snakes I have in the Dekay tank has longer tail than the suspected gravid one. This is judged from sheds from each snake. If I do recall from my herpetology course and study (unless I got it backwards) males have longer tails than females.

I dunno. That is why I asked you this. You have bred them before.

Also what in the world do you feed the offspring? They are really tiny aren't they?

Help is much appreciated...after all knowledge is power.
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14 Leopard Geckos 5.9.0
Found 2 Leo eggs (JungleXBlizzard) today. 5/23/04
2 Tokay Geckos 2.0.0
1 Graybanded Kingsnake 1.0.0 (on vacation in my house)
1 Baird's Rat Snake (Thanks Vadoni!) 1.0.0
1 Gray Ratsnake 0.0.1
2 Dekay's Snake 0.0.2
1.0 Ambystoma tigrinum nebulosum
1.1 Green Tree Frogs (H. cinerea)
1.1 Gray Tree Frog (H versicolor)

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HerperHelmz Jun 07, 2004 02:40 PM

Yeah babies are extremely tiny, most are 2 or 3 inches when they are born. They'll eat very small slugs and/or very small earthworms. A really good technique that I have been recommending alot lately, freeze some worms(seperately) and then thaw them out and cut them up into smaller pieces, the baby brown snakes will grow very fast, being about 5 times their size at birth before December(the ones that ate well). There are also small slugs and snails that baby brown snakes can takeover.

You are right in the fact that the male has a longer tail, but with shed skins it may not be too accurate as a shed skin will usually stretch out more while it's coming off.

Brown snakes in the northeast will give birth in June, usually in the middle.
Michael
Michael's Place

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4everherpn Jun 07, 2004 07:30 PM

I am aware that sheds can be stretched however it seems that there is not much difference between the amount of stretch in the sheds.

Thanks for information. If she is gravid then she should giving birth any time now since she shed not long ago.
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14 Leopard Geckos 5.9.0
Found 2 Leo eggs (JungleXBlizzard) today. 5/23/04
2 Tokay Geckos 2.0.0
1 Graybanded Kingsnake 1.0.0 (on vacation in my house)
1 Baird's Rat Snake (Thanks Vadoni!) 1.0.0
1 Gray Ratsnake 0.0.1
2 Dekay's Snake 0.0.2
1.0 Ambystoma tigrinum nebulosum
1.1 Green Tree Frogs (H. cinerea)
1.1 Gray Tree Frog (H versicolor)

HerperHelmz Jun 08, 2004 10:36 AM

Actually I was a little wrong, in one of my books it says they give birth in July, but it should be around the middle of June through the middle of August.
Michael
Michael's Place

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http://www.freewebs.com/mikesnake

Helmz614@aol.com

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