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Is there such a thing as a Bloodred Okeetee? Cause I have one and he was purchased as one. I understand bloods are a morph and Okeetee is a coloration of corns that originated in Okeetee county which would make them a locality and as well as a normal phase. He is a VERY VERY DEEP RED with Black outlined saddles. Bloods are virtualy patternless where as this snake has the deep red color along with the black outlines okeete saddles. Whatd everyones information on this? Is this something other than the previously annonced "bloodred Okeetee"?
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JOSHUA

But as to the "bloodred okeetee" issue, let's take it one step at a time.

1. Bloodred is an actual morph that seems to be guided by inheritable traits when one is referring to the pattern mutation witnessed, but it appears to be linebreeding that brings out the deep red coloration.

2. Okeetee refers to a locality or a coloration phase. If the locality is stressed, then regardless of the animal's appearances, it is an okeetee, if it (or all of its ancestors) can be traced back to collection at the okeetee hunt club in SC. If the animal is an okeetee in the okeetee phase sense (what I call "looketees", then the animal is the result of linebreeding of animals (which may or may not be from locality bloodlines) for that "look" found in the phase (deep red saddles, on an orange background, with dark, thick black borders, etc.).

3. Since an animal crossed with a bloodred cannot produce a true locality animal, the okeetee name cannot refer to locality. Since the bloodred and okeetee phase linebreeding goals are somewhat counterproductive (no outlining as opposed to dark, thick outlining), it seems unlikely that anyone would identify an animal as an okeetee bloodred. However, anerythristic bloodred may be the dumbest name known to mankind, and we see those everywhere, so who knows?!?!?

If the animal is a genetic bloodred (ie: carrying the pattern trait), and it is exhibiting the requisite color/pattern combinations of "looketees," then I suppose one could call an animal an okeetee bloodred, but I have never seen such advertised. Were you cheated? Only if you were buying the animal for a reason that cannot be realized as outlined above. If you like the animal and paid what you thought it was worth, there is no real way for you to have lost out.

Enjoy your new aquisition!
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

If the belly is white you might actually have a succeeded cross of Bloodred and Okeetee.. That sounds interresting. But like Darin says the name is funny since Okeetee is referred to the locality. But if it has the fading pattern of a Bloodred and the color of a good Okeetee it could indeed be a great Bloodred.
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

I Dont THink you were lied to. Its a mix and it sounds like the dark red is from the bloodred side and the outlines are of a oketee. Im realy not sure if im correct.
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Blake M.

Another problem you have is that there is a large proportion of cornsnake breeders who use standardized nomenclature....and then there are a few people who like to make up nice cutesy names... and sometimes those names seem to coincide with known names but DON'T mean the same gene/look.
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~Sasheena

what did you pay?....how big?.....sex?

there were alot of bloodred okeetees sold here in Pa over the last years..

they are very pretty.....

......dark reddish orange with black borders of variing thicknesses......

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