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FBT and anoles

walkerman Jun 19, 2003 11:24 AM

Was thinking of creating a large terrarium. Can I house FBT and an anole together? I know they will survive alright. A friend of mine has been doing it for years, But I wanted to know if anyone else has ever done it? Thanks for the help.

Replies (13)

birdznfrogs Jun 19, 2003 11:42 AM

You've got to be kidding me!!!! Thay's horribly stressful for the animals!!! They both have different living conditions, they live in tottally different contries, they need different temperatures! The list goes on, but I'll save more comments from the other forumers.

Steven

birdznfrogs Jun 19, 2003 11:43 AM

np

frogresearcher Jun 19, 2003 12:46 PM

No,mixing speicies!!!

hecktick_punker Jun 19, 2003 01:53 PM

What Steven wrote pretty much sums it up. I would recomend doing a search on google for both fire-bellied toad and anole care sheets. Compare them both and you will see why they will not survive together in the same cage.

The other thing to think about is that although anoles are common species in many attempted community reptile and amphiban terrariums anoles are extremely territorial and aggressive lizards. A fire-bellied toad that is kept with one would stress the anole and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the two tried to eat the other. Also, fire-bellied toads will produce a poison when they are threatened (like many amphibians) that can contaminate the water source in the cage. For more information about why I don't recomend keeping different species of amphibians or reptiles together have a look at www.amphibiancare.com/frogs/communitytank.html Good luck!
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ginevive Jun 20, 2003 06:38 AM

Since you might not know better, it is never a good idea to house firebelly toads with anything other than themselves. I say this because I sure didn't know in the beginning, before there was the Internet, and the pet stores said sure, put them in with other frogs. Well, during the feeding frenzy that most frogs go through when you feed them, one of my bronze frogs licked one of the firebellies thinking he was a cricket, and was dead within hours. please NEVET EVER put firebellies with other species! they can even poison each other if their enclosure is not kept clean!
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*~Ginevive~*

rc_racer_007 Jun 20, 2003 04:31 PM

ya before the internet i did the same with wc american toad tadpoles and anoles. i raised the tadpoles to frogs then i got some anoles. i hardly remember this, i think the anole lived for a while then died. then while i was on vacation the cat knocked off the lid and ate the toads.

no matter how cool you think it is, although it is tempteming. dont do it. i think at one point every one here thought about a community tank. those that did it probibly had disasterous results!
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rc_racer_007 Jun 20, 2003 04:38 PM

he also went to the anole forum and posted a message similiar to this:

http://forums.kingsnake.com/forum.php?catid=42

i dont want to sound harsh, but you can take the advice of experianced froggers (my self i wouldnt say experianced). but do what you like. if you go ahead with this let us know what has happened with the herps ina few months.
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walkerman Jun 20, 2003 05:46 PM

I asked the same type question on two other forums. I was hoping on getting some information from different sources. Why would I only ask the question on one forum? Many times you get no replies on one forum, but another forum has more active members. If people want to help when someone asks a question, great, but Rage and !!! over anoles and toads is a touch much. I think some people need to Relax.

hecktick_punker Jun 20, 2003 10:37 PM

Yes, get as much information as you can from as many different sources as you can. Thats very important to do with pretty much everything in your life. There is always more than one view on things and its good to see both. Just the fact that you are researching the possibility of combining these two species is good, many people do not. Keep up the good work and don't get discouraged from seeking out information,

Also, try to understand that many of us on these forums get to read questions like yours often. As much as it might just be a frog or toad to someone else they are our passion and we care about them just as much as someone who keeps horses cares about their horse, its just that not everyone can relate to someone that is interested in amphibians. Anyways, good luck with the whole situation. Talk to you later,
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Devin
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Derek Benson Jun 20, 2003 06:38 PM

You need to chill man. If I was entering this hobby and wanted to mix species, I wouldn't jsut ask the frog forum when anole people don't hang out here. That was an idiotic thing to do, post trying to "rag" on him when he was doing the right thing. Think before you speak.
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rc_racer_007 Jun 20, 2003 07:34 PM

I apologize for that. I, like many other are against community tanks, and sometimes to come of harsh. i have heard of other frogs being kept with anoles (or another type of lizard, cant remember), i personally dont think fbt's would be a good choice if you want to go that route.

but derek, i admit i am in error, but i can apologize for when i speak without thinking...
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ginevive Jun 22, 2003 07:18 AM

I know, when it comes to mixing species like that, i've done all the regrettible things. firebelly toads with green/bronze frogs and even a leopard frog in there. salamanders with frogs, in water instead of the dirt they need. and the ever-popular gravel substrate in frog tanks. Then again, I had not hit 10 years of age yet. but there were no books available and the pet store guys said sure, it's ok to mix them. thankfully the internet, and some really good herp books, came into my life.
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*~Ginevive~*

shopaholic Jun 29, 2003 01:48 AM

Hi there: Thank you for having the forethought to ask and openness to learn from others. I had not the luxury of the internet or even a car at the time I raised a pair which then laid over several cluthces some 700 eggs. I thought how great it would be to have a mixture of animals and of course pet stores said great. Now, everyone's going to cringe...I had the pair with a red eye, an Anole, fish, even a crab! Never would I do it again now that I know from these forums all the problems that could have come of it. But..in my limited experience..for some reason, nothing bad ever happened. It doesn't mean that the advise of not mixing is unfounded, just that I got lucky enough that everything turned out Ok and I had 700 babies still. Hey, keep posting your Q's. It shows you are responsible and a concerned animal keeper. I too was blasted once for asking too many Q's. Better that we ask instead of the animals suffering, right?

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