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question about hinged front viv.

adamsanity Jun 14, 2004 07:47 PM

I'm in the process of making a tall viv with a hinged front. My question is if anyone has done this before what kind of hinge / adhesive did you use?

I am using piece of plexyglass for the hinged section and i dont know if the glass adhesive will hold on the plastic. the hinges i have are small metal ones for baisic repair of cabinets and things like that. So i wory that they may not provide enough surface area to provide a secure hold on the glass.

so if anyone has done this before what type of hing and glue did you use?

-Adam

Replies (5)

peaceofthetropic Jun 14, 2004 10:03 PM

Hello Adam. Well, first off I would lose the Plexiglas. It tends to warp and dart frogs are notorious for escaping. Have some glass cut to fit the opening. The hinges you are using, probably won't hold the weight. I would go with an acrylic piano hinge. They work great and have a lot of surface area. They can be adhered with silicone. What size tank are you doing?

Ken
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adamsanity Jun 15, 2004 01:30 AM

Hey ken, Actually i found that the glass glue has secured the hinges to the plexy glass REALY well. While it did not secure it to the glass. I'm going to attatch the hinges to the glass with silicone. Which shouldnt present a problem because silicone adheres best to glass and metal. I know warpage can be a problem with the plexi glass but i'm not to worried about that at the moment. I always let my vivs run for quite a while before putting any frogs in. That will give me time to see if there is a warpage problem and if so i can correct it. The reason I didnt use the glass is becuase the glass guy near me charged me an arm and a leg last time i dealt with him. secondly I use the plexyglass for lots of things and i could buy a large piece and cut off what i wanted.

The tank is a 20 gallon long tank that i'm going to use as a tall tank. Over the last few years i have been puting together vivariums and studying those that i see at zoos and especially what i've seen from other dart keepers. I found for me that the smaller vivs are much nicer looking when they are tall rather than long. Something about the verticle orientation and the multiple layers of plants seems to be more interesting and have a nicer flow.

The dart frog enclosures at the baltimore aquarium are a good example. they are much taller than they are wide. However one thing they have is a large front to back space witch creates a nice vanishing point that really draws the viewer in. It's a shame the normal dart frogger can't easily create that kind of enclosure. especially not in a fish tank, fish tanks are made to keep fish closer to the front glass because the water distorts their appearance as they swim farther away.

wow anyway i just started to ramble. I'm an art student so the asthetics of the vivarium is something i am particularly interested in.

you are right about one thing the acrylic hinges would look much nicer than these metal ones. I actually wanted acrylic but i could not find them when i was shopping so i chose function over form.

rjmarchisi Jun 15, 2004 07:50 AM

This is what I did out of 10 gallon tanks, there is a whole discussion of it on the "other" board. I basically removed the trim from the top of the tank, and got 2 pieces of glass cut and attached one with silicon and the hinge with silicon as well. I made the screen part on the top for ventilation. Havent had any problems with anything falling apart or not adhering.

ridge Jun 16, 2004 12:31 AM

Does the screen at the top do a good job of keeping the glass clear or are you using fans also? And does the glass seal to the front pretty well, I see your hinges in the picture so I would assume it is a tight fit. Nice job.

rjmarchisi Jun 16, 2004 08:09 AM

The tanks only fog up occasionally, but there are no fans. For all of these tanks I decided to take the low technology route as all of my larger tanks ( 20 gallons and up ) have computer fans on timers installed on hinged glass lids. With the thickness of the glass I got cut being 3/16" and the trim from the window screen kit being 1/4" there is a sleight gap, but with the latches it holds the glass firmly in place.

rob

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