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My younger male NJ Northern Pine

nodaksnakelover Jun 14, 2004 11:09 PM

Here is my younger male NJ Northern Pine. He's going to be a daddy shortly! Can't wait to see his babies! He was bred to my younger female pine, not pictured, as she was in shed yet when I did my photo shoot this afternoon. Yet funny, I got home from getting pictures developed and there lay a fresh shed in her cage!

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BILLY Jun 14, 2004 11:12 PM

Unfreakingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!! Makes me proud to own one from this bloodline.

Billy
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Genesis 1:1

nodaksnakelover Jun 14, 2004 11:15 PM

Ah, but be even more proud you own this boy's full brother!!! Yes, fantastic bloodline! The parents of these boys are awesome in their own right!
Russell

TomDickinson Jun 15, 2004 08:10 AM

Your pines are awesome!Do you know what part of jersey are they from?Iwas herping in atlantic county drove past the spot I was going to herp to get something to eat.Came back and there was a 4 1/2 foot pine smashed on the road.I come across live ones every once in a while.One of my favorites.They just get too big for my amount of space Tom

nodaksnakelover Jun 15, 2004 10:48 AM

Over twenty years ago, I believe around 25 now, John Meltzer got a number of babies from a friend who had collected some adults from the Pine Barrens back before regulations were in place against collection. And the babies John got were from these previously wild caught adults. Well those animals lived into their twenties, producing very well for John. My older male is directly out of these old animals. My older female has the same father but different mother, from yet another bloodline. Known for having a red body color. Thus my older female has some red wash in her face and well marked red spots in the back third of her body. Where the male is primarily black and white. The younger pair I have come from the old female, the last one John had left. The old male had died so he used a young male NJ stock male from another bloodline. I'm told the original bunch came from Ocean and Birmingham Counties. I haven't been told the name of this original breeder, but I have no reason to doubt John Meltzer on their locality info. After all, he got them WAY back when the hobby was just gettin going. There was a period of time he couldn't hardly give the babies away! My only regret is back when I picked up my first pair, there were two clutches, and I wish I had picked a pair from each clutch rather than one from each clutch as I did. Both my males and my younger female greatly resemble the older bloodline. I have pictures of the old snakes that my stock originates from. John said he had six of them at one time. One of the babies I produced last year was bought by him. He's liking the black and white with a red pink wash on the sides. Very pretty! I love the black and white of the males, but my favorite is my Big Girl!
Russell

here is a shot of one of the old animals that I bought my first pair from. Not sure which one it is, male or female...John had told me, but I didn't get around to labeling them...whoops!

BILLY Jun 15, 2004 06:23 PM

Russell,

That pic there is the female, the mother to mine and some of yours. She lived to be 24, producing till she was 23. What an awesome animal!!!!!!!!!!!

Think of it, she was born in 1979, when KISS's album Dynasty came out.

LOL!

Billy
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Genesis 1:1

RichH Jun 15, 2004 10:36 PM

even while living in NJ still collect these pines? I lived across the river for 30 years before residing down South and was under the impression they are hands off in all of NJ? Am I mistaken?

My time with them was when you could still go hike thru their habitat in the Barrens. Can't beat seeing them in the flesh in their natural habitat. The individuals I saw come out of there were typically heavily Black blotched with pinkish/reddish hues on the sides of the snake toward their rear.

Any pics of some in the wild?

Best Regards, Rich Hebron

May be up there next week for a complete week. Fingers crossed and cameras ready!!!!!!!!

terryp Jun 16, 2004 04:27 PM

Here you go Rich. I hope this one works for you.

Terry Parks
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gofer Jun 17, 2004 12:49 AM

>>Here you go Rich. I hope this one works for you.
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>>Terry Parks
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Gregg F.

www.greggsrb.com

gofer Jun 15, 2004 10:39 AM

He would go great with my one female you sold to me last year. I really like the patterning on this male pictured, great looking pines you have thats for sure. Keep me posted on the eggs hatchign out this year.

Have a good one,

Gregg F.

>>Here is my younger male NJ Northern Pine. He's going to be a daddy shortly! Can't wait to see his babies! He was bred to my younger female pine, not pictured, as she was in shed yet when I did my photo shoot this afternoon. Yet funny, I got home from getting pictures developed and there lay a fresh shed in her cage!
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Gregg F.

www.greggsrb.com

nodaksnakelover Jun 15, 2004 10:54 AM

Yeah, yeah, yeah, rub it in buddy, that I sold that female when I shoulda kept her...LOL! Just kidding buddy, there will be more like her, I'm sure! No worries there! Just I need more room to house such projects! Wife would like a living room of her own someday..he he he...what an understanding wife...so far...
Russell

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