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"belly only" n.f. pictiventris

michael56 May 13, 2003 11:11 PM

Fe again, however her throat isn't showing. In the previous picture (coming out of the tank) it shows her throat as white which in fact it is. Just below that it takes on the reddish tint as seen in this photo. The pattern is as worm-like or pictiventris as I've seen in similar species photos. The juvenile in the picture posted below has an immaculate white belly with black patterning down the length of it.
Michael

Replies (5)

PiersonH May 14, 2003 04:09 AM

Based on that snake's ventral pattern, I'd say it is fasciata fasciata. Pictiventris have a checkerboard pattern as opposed to the transverse "wormy" pattern of fasciata. Either way, awesome snake.

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Pierson Hill
Herpetology and Herpetoculture

michael56 May 14, 2003 07:32 PM

What is this or what is that? Isn't classic pictiventris "worm-like" markings noted in all literature? Oh, say it's so!!
I pict a winner. I pict a ventris. My world is spinning. OK, it's supposed to. My head is spinning ... aaaaaahhhh!
Michael

PiersonH May 20, 2003 09:48 AM

Maybe I am a little confused as well. I'm thinking back to a single picture of a beautiful pictiventris in my "Snakes of Florida" book by Alan Tennant. The pictiventris shown is flipped on its back and its belly has large distinct checkers as opposed to the "wormy" markings. I'll check the book when I'm not running crazy and get back to you.

On another note, I recently caught the most beautiful taxispilota I have ever seen. I'll try and get pics up soon.

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Pierson Hill
Herpetology and Herpetoculture

michael56 May 20, 2003 06:30 PM

It isn't be the first time a book or guide provided either erroneous or poorly described info. I suspect that it's mostly proof-reading and cross referenceing photo to ID where they screw up. I have a similar problem with a small "Florida Guide" ... I still don't know what is really the largest (longest) nerodia? Is it the green?

And absolutely yes, of course, golly yeah I would love to see shot(s) of that Brown!!! Actually I was outside yesterday filming my taxis', which didn't turn out cause the sunlight washed out everything. Next, indirect sunlight. Eventually I'll get it right.
Michael

PiersonH May 21, 2003 01:09 PM

You are right and the book isn't. The picture is of a beautiful Banded (N. fasciata fasciata) but they have it labeled as a Florida (N.f. pictiventris).

So the verdict is:

fasciata: squarish ventral checkering
pcitiventris: wormy ventral markings

I need to start looking at the bellies of all the Bandeds I've been seeing recently.

-Pierson
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Pierson Hill
Herpetology and Herpetoculture

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