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need opinions from those who know.......what would you call this............

mike_panic Jun 19, 2003 03:18 PM

I hatched out this girl a few years ago. At the time, she had what seemed like a stripe running the length of her body with a small break near her neck. I hatched her out from a pair of multi het parents that looked hypo to me. All of her siblings(except for the normal hets) were striped amels or Anerythristics. I was calling her a snow stripe but I just dont know. Could she be a hypo snow stripe and thats why the stripe mostly dissapeared or is she merely a blizzard? I thought the Hypo gene should have been masked. The photo below is her mother. I dont have one of her father but he looked similiar with slightly more black. I still considered him a hypo. Let me know if you think this is a snow stripe or a blizzard. This is the only photo I have of her when she was young. Thanks. Mike Panichi

Replies (9)

mike_panic Jun 19, 2003 03:19 PM

nn

mike_panic Jun 19, 2003 10:03 PM

is he a hypo?

mike_panic Jun 19, 2003 10:04 PM

vb

John Q Jun 19, 2003 04:57 PM

Not a Blizzard with the yellow on her neck. Blizzards are Type B anery and there is no yellow. Mom definitely looks hypo so I would say striped snow het for hypo. What did you breed to mom? If the sire was hypo, then I would say that you've got a striped hypo snow.

Kat Jun 19, 2003 05:12 PM

Blizzards AND Charcoals can and do sometimes have yellow. You cannot tell Anery A from Anery B by whether a snake has yellow or not. I've seen Anery As with NO yellow and I've seen blizzards with quite a bit of yellow.

That having been said, my best guess for what that snake is, is a striped blizzard (as yes, blizzards do have slight patterning). The only way to prove or disprove this is via breeding trials. Have fun.
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mike_panic Jun 19, 2003 05:29 PM

I have had blizzards with yellow, you are correct. A striped Blizzard,I just dont know about that. Keep in mind many of the siblings were striped of one color phase or another. This is the only snow striped baby, or whatever she is. The mother I can say with certainy was a hypo, the father had a little more black in him but still appeared hypo. Thanks Kat. Mike Panichi

elaphe4herps Jun 19, 2003 08:02 PM

i would say it is a blizzard motley striped because of the break in the pattern at the neck and the perfect striping. Most snow stripes are at least a little unbroken in patterning, but from what i can see, yours has a perfect stripe all the way down so im saying blizzard.
Motley striped because the stripe pattern does not connect at the neck. If im not mistaken, regular stripes have their stripe connected from the nose down. Also, you might want to take a look at the belly. if there is any patterning, that rules out my motley theory and also might contradict my blizzard idea too. in that case i would say snow striped.
I dont know about the homo hypo because it WOULD get masked by the amel. The only to tell would be to breed it to a hypo later on. Breeding trials is definitely going to be your best way of telling what this one is though. Sounds like another project for another year huh, lol. Good luck... WES SPINKS
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Mark Schmidtke Jun 19, 2003 08:40 PM

I have stripes that look like that and I have blizzards with those colors but none that are both. I don't think it has hypo, as snow hypos tend to show a bit more pink. Would be cool if it was though, a quadruple homozygous animal.

Mark

>>I hatched out this girl a few years ago. At the time, she had what seemed like a stripe running the length of her body with a small break near her neck. I hatched her out from a pair of multi het parents that looked hypo to me. All of her siblings(except for the normal hets) were striped amels or Anerythristics. I was calling her a snow stripe but I just dont know. Could she be a hypo snow stripe and thats why the stripe mostly dissapeared or is she merely a blizzard? I thought the Hypo gene should have been masked. The photo below is her mother. I dont have one of her father but he looked similiar with slightly more black. I still considered him a hypo. Let me know if you think this is a snow stripe or a blizzard. This is the only photo I have of her when she was young. Thanks. Mike Panichi
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Clint Boyer Jun 22, 2003 11:21 PM

I'd bet it's one of the vanishing type of stripes. I really doubt it's a Blizzard, the head color looks more Snow-like to me.

Clint Boyer

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