considering you have those LA pines. How would one these days ever get new blood of those into their group. Congrats on them by the way. You are in a very elite group that is actually able to even get them to go.
Actually many question me as to why. Some consider me going backwards. Reasoning being why bust your butt in raising stuff there is no longer a market for. I realized though thats what is happening to everything in this hobby. It usually becomes a trade for many and we forget why we started it all to begin with.
I found I was happier with seeing the many natural herps that I came across many years ago. I no longer see too many of them these days and was hoping to put some of those groups together once again. You being a pituophis keeper as well probably can relate to it more then other enthusiasts. In my opinion they are very loyal if not the loyalist keepers keen on locale specific herps. For me it was Northern Pines the past two seasons in the pit forums and Eastern Foxsnakes in the ratsnakes forums. I have acquired and put together groups of both all with specific locale info.
Many know that now and there are other herps as well but I have been looking for a specific locale of kings for far longer then the previous herps I have mentioned in this post. Yet I bet not many here are even aware that I have been. I have posted it several times and to date only one person in 3 years even recalls what I am seeking. I have started to give up on them though as I believe when Lemke moved on so did they. There could be truth to not being able to sell any after all that hard work even if i foumd some considering the lack of interest but I could always donate to schools and nature centers just the same and probably feel better about it in the end.
There are many more starting to go back to the roots of this hobby and are finding we did a piss poor job as hobbyists in keeping lineage and records clear for the future to look back upon. It is starting to show now as more and more start questioning bloodlines and finding many may state one thing but in all reality just don't know what they have. While trying to put such groups together now you can get some pretty bad brow beatings for even asking the question of lineage history. I guess It could be bad for business if anyone was trying to make a living out of herps did such things as asking to many questions publicly. On that note I decided not to take it all serious but to keep on looking and asking questions as to me it is a hobby. I'm starting to believe I just don't fret over it as much as others do because all I'm trying to do is learn more.
On a side note, I do still work with many morphs involving all types of colubrids. I have though been cutting back a bit on those as I locate more of the others. All in all its been fun and I hope to always keep it that way...
Best Regards, Rich Hebron
and it was a carbon copy of my female. The majority of these babies unlike last year look more like the female. Last year they all looked like the male. Im probably going to keep only one snake this year as it may be the last year I breed these 2 together. I have another up and coming female thats Burlington Co as well but unrelated to my adult female. She is a 2002 hatch and is close to 36" right now and I like to be at least 40" so its gonna be close if she can go. Im going to use my adult Burlington Co female with another male either my orange wide banded GA Eastern I got from Will Still or a beautiful non locale male I want to try and get a specific look. Below is a pic of my 2002 Burlington female that will be bred to the big Monmouth male.
