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Help I got A sick Berdie Dont Know Why!!!!!

ryan976 Jun 20, 2004 06:20 PM

Hey everyone i have 3 dragons a male and 2 females. one of my females is probally 3 inches smaller than my other male and female but she eats great. But just 2 days ago after i feed her i noticed her legs kinda lock up and she started shaking, like she was having a seziure, she then came out of it and jumped ontop of the rock in the basking area. just yesturday she did it again. What the heck is going on with this little dragon?? i also noticed she has some runny poop. or one of these guys does. The only thing i can think of that would have made her sick is the Superworms i gave her. She only ate about 3 but then she ate about 6 crickets. Maybe i gave her to much to eat or something...??? Can anyone tell me what i need to do? and also my male dragon got clawed in the eye bye his girlfriend its not bad at all but he still gets some cake like stuff stuck in it and i wipe it out for him, should i find some eye drops or somthing? Thanks for any help.

Replies (8)

littleherper Jun 20, 2004 06:25 PM

as for the bearded dragon with the busted eye. take him too a qualified reptile vet. as for the seizure beardie. im guessing calcuim defeceincy. do you have a proper uvb light on her at least 8 hours a day? are you putting calcium powder on her food?
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sincerely,
jonathan
JDDK Reptiles www.jddkreptiles.com

ryan976 Jun 20, 2004 09:38 PM

Yes They Get Calcium at least 4 times a week, and yes i Turn theyre Basking light on at 6:00am in the morning when i go to work and i turn it off at 9:00pm when i go to bed. And i also have a Heat Rock thats thermo controlled thats on all day and night. All of them eat very well no problems even the little girl thats having the seizures she still is eating. I havent seen her have the seizures today, but i did see some Runny Droppings. The Boy his eye looks fine its not red or swollen, and he has it open, but he still gets what looks to be like human eye boogers in it, and i have to wipe it out for him. I think he just got clawed in the eye by his girls and its trying to heal. But the little girl she scared me the way she acted, legs locked in place and shivering, but in 20 seconds she would come out of it and be able to walk just fine and run and jump on her rock. Dont know what that means maybe That New Diet of Waxworms and Superworms was To rich for her

radena Jun 20, 2004 11:23 PM

I am kinda new to beardeds myself.
But I do know that impaction can cause the
type of seizure that you are describing.
How old is this dragon? Superworms should not
be given unless the dragon is over 12 inches long. one year old.
What is the basking temp? What are you measureing it with?
Stick on or digital thermometer? stick on are inacurate up to 20*.
What substrate is she on? Calcisand? Ground Walnut?
Both of these will cause impactions. Bad stuff.

It sounds as if the beardedes are housed together.
How can you tell who is pooping? And how much they
are each eating? I only have one. So that makes it
easy.

If she does it again. Give her a luke warm bath for 10
to 20 minutes. She may poo in the water then you will know
it was impaction.
Radena

ryan976 Jun 21, 2004 06:32 PM

Well last time i checked the Zoomeds Basking light is UVB too, and i believe i have read that you dont need UVB anyways if you feed calcium such as Reptocal on your crickets, in which case i do. The Temps are 80 degrees on both sides of the cage left and right, my cage was built so that the basking light is in the middle, i had a 100watt Bulb but i changed it to 150watts to help her through this sickness. When i was using a 100 watt bulb it was about 115-125deg depends on the weather and what i set my air conditioner at. With the 150wattbulb its 125-145deg. Not to mention they do also have a Heatrock that i payed $60.00 bucks for that has an built in temp gauge that shuts off when it reaches a preset temp. And also she is about 10-11 inches in length but shes not very old. 5 months. The other two dragons are doing fine. The boys eye looks like its healing day by day and i only think he got a claw in his eye. but as for the little girl she had some kinda seziure or something cuz her front legs locked up backwards and her back feet were shaking. ive never had a problem with her until the day after i feed worms.

kephy Jun 21, 2004 07:39 PM

Yikes, you'll want to seperate that male from the females ASAP. Other than the obvious injuries that can occur which you've already witnessed, soon he will be breeding with those girls LONG before they are mature enough to breed. Females should be about 15 months and 350 grams before allowing them to become gravid. Some breeders like their females even bigger, but that's a good rule of thumb.

This is especially important if one of your girls is seizing. You don't want to put any extra stress on her, and you certainly don't want him trying to breed with her. Suppose she has a problem that can be passed on to the young? You never know. Sick animals should not be allowed to breed.

Breeding bearded dragons has a lot of rewards when done properly, I'm sure, but there are a LOT of responsibilities, and if you aren't well read, and prepared mentally and financially for it you should reconsider housing a male with your females at all. Even many professional breeders won't keep the males and females together 24/7, they allow them to mate and put them back in seperate enclosures. It's for the animals' well being.
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Amanda
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2.0 bearded dragons (Ocho / Domo-kun)
0.1 kingsnake (Rio)
1.0 ferret (Playstation)
1.0 cat (Wally)
0.1 dog (Tima)

kephy Jun 21, 2004 08:04 PM

If you got all your beardies from the same place and there is even a remote chance they could be related, that's another excellent reason to keep the male away from the females.

I'm not trying to freak you out or nag or anything, these are just things you need to give serious consideration to if you want to keep a male with females.

The captive bred genepool with bearded dragons is getting weaker due to inbreeding and lack of fresh blood from wildcaught animals. Keepers and future breeders need to do their part to keep it as diverse as possible, by researching the backgrounds of the dragons being bred and making sure only the strongest and healthiest are allowed to reproduce, and keep the rest seperate from each other. If one sick or weak dragon is allowed to breed, then those offspring are sold and they are allowed to breed, it starts a domino effect of weak genes being spread through an already weakened genepool.
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Amanda
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2.0 bearded dragons (Ocho / Domo-kun)
0.1 kingsnake (Rio)
1.0 ferret (Playstation)
1.0 cat (Wally)
0.1 dog (Tima)

littleherper Jun 21, 2004 12:32 AM

Of course you have a basking light but do u have a UVB light?? your supposed to have both. also you should be putting calcuim on there feeders every time you feed them. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the diet. If you dont have a UVB light then you need to get one. reptiles need UVB rays to use calcium. if they cant use the calcium they therefore wont have enough calcium and they will get calcium defeciency. the usual symptoms of calcium defeciency are twitching and seizures.
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sincerely,
jonathan
JDDK Reptiles www.jddkreptiles.com

wideglide Jun 21, 2004 09:19 AM

Be careful with the calcium advice. Dusting at every feed may be too much. Only once a day is necessary if the dragons are young and less if they are over 8 months old.
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Rob Talkington

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