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My first breeding of Zamenis longissimus. This species has a very speciel place in my collection and is one of my all time favorites.
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Regards
Claus Ilsoe
Ratsnakes: persica,longissima,situla,quatuorlineata,
q. muenteri,scalaris,anomala,schrencki,flavolineata,frisei,
dione,vulpina gloydi

Homepage: www.ratsnakes.dk

Lets try those pictures again

egg ready to hatch

hatchlings

...and Mom
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Regards
Claus Ilsoe
Ratsnakes: persica,longissima,situla,quatuorlineata,
q. muenteri,scalaris,anomala,schrencki,flavolineata,frisei,
dione,vulpina gloydi

Homepage: www.ratsnakes.dk

Mom has a beautiful head!

Travis

Great pictures! Aren't these the snakes that are supposed to be represented in the symbol of the Hippocratic oath physicians have to take? There are two enterwined on a cross or thermometer. I used to see these listed on folk's lists in the early 90's a lot. Why are they so rare now? Is anyone out there breeding them regularly? I would love to see some representative pictures of specimens folks are working with now. Same of Fox snakes (pictures). I do not visit this forum regularly, so if this subject has already been covered, point me to it. I was checking it out for info on redtailed green rats. See post above.

Hmm...interesting question. I do not know why many of the european species are so rare. It seems like many of them has been forgotten at some point, but I know several people in europe are trying to get them into their collection. However the fact is that there aren't that many avaiable anymore. I know situla can be seen in some private collections in USA, but is this not about it?
I try to get several groups/localities of the into my collection and always keep the different localities apart from eachother.
This year 2 new localities of longissimus will be added and that is usually how things seem to go every year.
At this point I also have 3 lines of situla the rest of my ratsnakes.
In my opinion the european ones like longissimus, quatuorlineata, scalaris etc can easily match any asian species.
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Regards
Claus Ilsoe
Ratsnakes: persica,longissima,situla,quatuorlineata,
q. muenteri,scalaris,anomala,schrencki,flavolineata,frisei,
dione,vulpina gloydi

Homepage: www.ratsnakes.dk

Really beautiful snakes!
Congratulations!

Hello,
i have several questions.

1. From which locality origin your Z. longissima, maybe it is Turkey?
2. Can you post here fotos of your "grey" Z. persica?
3. I have great interest in diones, can i see fotos of your diones?
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Ivan Arinin
Tula Exotarium
ICQ 151665951
E.g. guttata Normal 2.3
E.g. guttata Albino 2.4
E.g. guttata Oketee 2.0
E.g. guttata Hypo Oketee 1.1
E.g. guttata Albino Okeetee 2.2
E.g. guttata Ghost 2.3
E.g. guttata Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Albino Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Anerythristic 2.2
E.g. guttata Snow 2.4
E.g. guttata Creamsicle 2.1
E.g. rosacea 2.2
E.g. emoryi 2.2

E. persica black 3.4
E. persica brown 2.1
E. longissima 4.6
E. situla 3.3
E. dione 54
E. bimaculata 4.3
E. quatourlineata 10.15

E. o. obsoleta yellow 2.2
E. o. lindheimeri White Sided 2.2.
E. o. lindheomeri Leucistic 1.2
E. o. lindheimeri Black Orange 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata 1.3
E. o. quatourlineata Deckerti 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata Williamsi 1.0
E. o. rossalleni 2.2

Langaha madagascariensis 2.1.12
Cylindrophis ruffus 0.1
Enhydris plumbea 1.0

here is a few pictures of Zamenis persicus.

black

...and a gray male
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Regards
Claus Ilsoe
Ratsnakes: persica,longissima,situla,quatuorlineata,
q. muenteri,scalaris,anomala,schrencki,flavolineata,frisei,
dione,vulpina gloydi

Homepage: www.ratsnakes.dk

Hmm, very interesting. I have brown and black Z. persicus.

Please, send me fotos of your diones to ivan_arinin@pisem.net. Thanks.
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Ivan Arinin
Tula Exotarium
ICQ 151665951
Site: www.edione.narod.ru
E.g. guttata Normal 2.3
E.g. guttata Albino 2.4
E.g. guttata Oketee 2.0
E.g. guttata Hypo Oketee 1.1
E.g. guttata Albino Okeetee 2.2
E.g. guttata Ghost 2.3
E.g. guttata Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Albino Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Anerythristic 2.2
E.g. guttata Snow 2.4
E.g. guttata Creamsicle 2.1
E.g. rosacea 2.2
E.g. emoryi 2.2

E. persica black 3.4
E. persica brown 2.1
E. longissima 4.6
E. situla 3.3
E. dione 54
E. bimaculata 4.3
E. quatourlineata 10.15

E. o. obsoleta yellow 2.2
E. o. lindheimeri White Sided 2.2.
E. o. lindheomeri Leucistic 1.2
E. o. lindheimeri Black Orange 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata 1.3
E. o. quatourlineata Deckerti 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata Williamsi 1.0
E. o. rossalleni 2.2

Langaha madagascariensis 2.1.12
Cylindrophis ruffus 0.1
Enhydris plumbea 1.0

Claus, congrats on your success with longissimus. I think this is the first time a hatching has been posted about this species on this site. Could you post a close-up photo of the eggs? Do they have a smooth surface, or is it rough, like the leopard rat's? Thanks....Terry

Hi

I think situla eggs are a bit more rough than longissimus.
Strange that pictures of hatchlings has not been posted before. I certaintly think that this species deserves a place in any Ratsnake collection.....but I guess that this is just me...
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Regards
Claus Ilsoe
Ratsnakes: persica,longissima,situla,quatuorlineata,
q. muenteri,scalaris,anomala,schrencki,flavolineata,frisei,
dione,vulpina gloydi

Homepage: www.ratsnakes.dk

I think there are a few in the U.S. that are working with longissimus, but I just haven't seen any reports on hatchlings before.

They are neat snakes. Good luck with them.

TC