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monitor and ig in large sunroom

petkid51 Jun 24, 2004 05:59 PM

Hi
I was wondering if you could house a monitor and an ig in the same enclosure. I was thinkin of my sunroom because its 17 x 16x 9 .my ig is already inhabiting it and usually hangs out on his large pvc perch. I was thinking a savanah monitor. Now before i get ahead of myself i wanted to point out some good things about this.

1 Because they eat diffrent foods there would be no competition for that.

2 Monitors are mostly terrestrial so it could use the floor while the ig is hangin out on his perch thats bigger than most igs entire cage.

3 i could make a BIG pool for the monitor by the perch.

4 I dont have to worry about temp because the room stays at around 80 degrees. In the winter i have one of those room heaters that i put out there.

5 UVB isnt a problem because all i have to do is open the window.

But the thing is i dont know how they would react to each other. Im worried for the ig because he is king of a runt. hes a rehome (never got a proper diet). Oh, and the other inhabitants of the room. Theres my male chameleon Zach(in a screen cage), and a pair of craw dads in a big rubbermaid, which is one of the suppotrs for the perch. Sorry for the long post. Oh,another thing should i make some place for the monitor to dig? like a container full of dirt?
Thanks.

Replies (3)

cloudybengal Jun 24, 2004 07:04 PM

Here's Bloodbats iggie and Salvator...
Yup, they are successfully housed together...

"Did I just mention iguana? Yes, I did. In addition to the room housing 2 salvators, there is also an iguana in the room. (I can actually feel the flames already). Petrie, the iguana, is 4.5 - 5 foot, and was highly aggressive when he went in this room. I pulled off the closet doors and fixed a shelf up in the closet for him. He sits up there most of the time, and comes down occasionally for water, to bask when his upper light burns out, searching for food (stupid iguana eats all the plants I have in the room to make it look pretty), sometimes when Labyrinth climbs up to the shelf to bask away from Mushu, or for whatever reasons go through an iguana's brain. This has been the arrangement for about 4 months, and there has yet to be any indication of a problem (other than eating all my plants). Both salvators seem fairly indifferent to Petrie's presence, and Petrie seems to have a system worked out."
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Bloodbat Jun 24, 2004 09:22 PM

I have kept iguanas with salvators 18 months now. I have yet to have a serious problem with that arrangement. There are three iguanas in the room, and there were two breeding salvators in that room until April. Currently, 3 iguanas and a female salvator. For the most part the iguanas remain up on their shelves basking or doing whatever, and the salvator(s) remain on the ground (or under their hides) or lower basking spots. The male salvator (5 foot, but now deceased) would occasionally climb up to the iguanas shelves and bask with them. He did this when the female salvator became aggressive toward the male salvator. Even when gravid and ready to lay, she did not become aggressive toward the iguanas, although she made very determined efforts to kill the male salvator.

Now, there have been a few mild incidents. Occasionally an iguana will leap from a shelf and land near the female salvator. She will occasionally (twice that I have witnessed) bite their foot when they land. She lets go right away and I have not seen broken skin or any sign of injury on the iguanas. The iguanas will stand still until she lets go (it is a matter of a few seconds). Chubbs (iguana) will posture and Mushu (female salvator) just stares at him. Eventually Chubbs just walks away with no sense of urgency. Petrie (iguana) stood still and walked away as soon as she let go. Mushu seems to respond to them only when they come out of nowhere. If the iguanas walk by her, she usually ignores them. Sometimes she will track them, and they will slow down or even freeze for a moment before resuming their journey. Occasionally, the iguanas will bask with Mushu, but not very often. The iguanas prefer the high basking spots.

To my knowledge, Labyrinth (male salvator) never attacked an iguana. I am very confident he never did because if he had, I most likely would have had a dead iguana.

I think the key to making this arrangement work was to provide for each animal. The iguanas have shelves with basking sites. Labyrinth could get to them, but rarely chose to do so. Mushu does not climb.

I cannot tell you what goes on in their heads, but I know Mushu has been extremely hungry before but she has never killed (or made an attempt on) one of the iguanas. Neither did Labyrinth, even when very hungry. I am not suggesting that they would never kill an iguana if it was life or death, but it has not happened even on long absences of food for the salvators. I also know that Mushu was openly aggressive toward Labyrinth and would attack him relentlessly, but ignore an iguana sitting right next to her even the day before she would drop her eggs. So she was selective with her target.

I was extremely nervous about housing iguanas with salvators. It has worked out well for these particular animals, and I would consider it again in the future. Another key, though, is to monitor the situation and have a backup!!! If there had been a problem (that was not fatal), I had the enclosures ready to separate the iguanas back out immediately. You have to tailor the mixing to your animals. If they do not get along, do not force it.

Interestingly, Mushu taste tested greens the first few times I fed the iguanas but did not eat them. The iguanas will occasionally take a rat, chew it up, and spit it out. Chubbs seems to be the iguana that still does this, whereas Petrie did it once or twice and quit. Mr. Green Jeans (third iguana) has never attempted to eat a rat to my knowledge and has never been bitten by a salvator to my knowledge.

This is Labyrinth on one of his rare baskings on a shelf with an iguana (Chubbs). They had been sitting peacefully until I showed up. Both of those animals dislike (hate) me.

Salvators

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^x^ Bloodbat ^x^
Monitors, monitors everywhere
and all the food they ate.
Monitors, monitors everywhere,
their parents loved to mate.

jiffypop Jun 24, 2004 08:04 PM

I'm not recommending it but it can be done. I have a freeroaming Sav and a freeroaming Argentine Tegu and several freeroaming Iguanas. They all share space (2 rooms, each 12x12x8) for most of the day and night. All animals are kept well fed. The Sav and the Tegu do climb up to the Iguana's basking sites and bask with them even tho they have their own hotter basking spots on the floor. I've had one incidence of aggression when I first started seeing the Sav up high...he got a minor bite from one of the Iguanas. It healed quickly and there has been harmony ever since.

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