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Fang Shedding

longtang Jun 20, 2003 09:23 AM

Dear all:

regarding shedded Fangs: How often do growing snakes shed their fangs? I have a juvenile Broadbanded Copperhead and a baby pigmy rattler. I was wondering how often I would expect them to shed their fangs. (I guess it is related to growth--so do they shed fangs as often as they shed skin?)

Also, I was wondering about finding fangs in their droppings. I thought their stomach acid was strong enough to dissolve bones. How come the fangs would not just be dissolved? Or. . . --is it that they ARE dissolved and it is only on those rare occassions that one would find a fang in stool?

Could someone explain it? Thx. in advance.

sincerely, TAng.

Replies (3)

meretseger Jun 20, 2003 10:10 AM

It's my understanding that you can find them in stool. Tooth enamel is harder than bone so maybe they can't digest that... but then we'd be finding rodent teeth all the time... but then again I never looked. The fangs of your snakes would be so tiny that they'd be hard to find. I happened to find one of my rattler's fangs (lost it when she struck the glass), and it's only half an inch long. She's 3 feet. Not really that exciting, though. Just looks like a tooth.

rayhoser Jun 21, 2003 07:16 PM

I've put it in the text of the post below:
It's also online at:
http://www.smuggled.com/snatee1.htm
SNAKES SWALLOWING THEIR OWN TEETH

Originally published in Herpetofauna 21 (2) 1991, Page 33

By
Raymond T. Hoser
41 Village Avenue, Doncaster, VIC. 3108 Australia. and
Chris Williams
6 Fredrika Place, Carlingford, NSW 2118, Australia

Although it is known that teeth are replaced in snakes, (Hoser, 1989) neither the rate at which this occurs or what happens to the replaced teeth appears to have been documented. Casual observations by the authors indicates a high rate of tooth loss in snakes, particularly non-venomous varieties and that large numbers of teeth are ingested by snakes when feeding.

In his work at Taronga Zoo (Sydney) one of the authors (C.W.) had the opportunity to inspect the faeces of a number of snakes. Each faeces was carefully checked for discarded teeth. Five samples from Reticulated Pythons Python reticulatus averaged ten undigested teeth, with the maximum number of teeth found in a single faeces being about twenty. A similar number of teeth were found in three faeces of Scrub Pythons Morelia amethistina. Faeces from Taipan Oxyuranus scutellatus and Death Adder Acanthophis antarcticus which were inspected contained few if any teeth. Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake Crotalus adamanteus faeces were also inspected and although teeth were regularly found, the number was not as high as for the pythons.

In the period 1977-84 one of the authors (R.H.) noted on some occasions the presence of fangs in the faeces of Death Adders Acanthophis antarcticus. These fangs were only ever seen singly and although when seen they were noted, no attempt was made to closely inspect faeces for fangs. Death Adders commonly shed fangs when being milked for venom during the period 1977- 84, although it was noted that fangs were only shed when replacement fangs were in place.

It is well known among herpetologists who are bitten by snakes, particularly non-venomous varieties such as Pythons and Green Tree Snakes Dendrelaphis punctulatus that these snakes have a propensity to leave teeth in the flesh of the bitten person. It would be reasonable to assume that this also occurs when these snakes strike at prey items, thereby resulting in the ingestion of teeth with the prey.

It appears that the number of teeth likely to be found in a snake's faeces is proportionate to the number in the snakes mouth. The high number of teeth found indicates perhaps a higher rate of teeth replacement than may have been suspected.

Although it seems that ingested teeth are usually passed through without a problem, Ron Sayers (pers. com.) reported a case of Gaboon Viper Bitis gabonica that was found dead after a large fang had perforated the stomach lining. Such problems are presumably most likely to occur in large-fanged venomous snakes.

We are uncertain if non-venomous snakes only shed teeth when replacement teeth are present (as in elapids).

REFERENCE

Hoser, R.T. (1989) Australian Reptiles and Frogs. Pierson and Co., Sydney. Australia. 238 pp.

Raymond Hoser has been an active herpetologist for about 30 years and published over 100 papers in journals worldwide. He has written five books including the definitive works "Australian Reptiles and Frogs", "Endangered Animals of Australia" and the controversial best seller "Smuggled - The Underground Trade in Australia's Wildlife". Click on the text below for details about his latest book that is of major interest to herpetologists everywhere. Chris Williams a former reptile keeper at Sydney's Taronga Zoo, has had a long involvement with reptiles and other wildlife. He is a past president of the Sydney based Australian Herpetological Society.

Matt Harris Jun 26, 2003 11:02 AM

It can vary.. Sometimes they will shed them quite frequently, then maybe not for quite some time. It also depends on feeding frequency to some degree.

I recently had my adult Terciopelos(B. asper) shed about 1/2 dozen fangs between the two snakes within 3 weeks. They were averaging like 1/week. since then, I haven't found a shed fang in nearly 2 months. Keep in mind...the 6 that I found were clean sheds found either laying on the substrate or sifting through the sphagnum medium. I occasionally see them in feces, but don't purposely dig through it looking for them. I have a pic of them at home showing their relative size....will post when I get a chance.

FYI. the largest I have found so far(in a 4yr old snake) is 1 1/4" measured along the curve of the fang.

I also find bushmaster fangs at about the same frequency(Found one last night in fact)

I tend to find rattlensnake fangs less frequently.

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